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It's pithy, but calling BS on each other's world views is probably the road to flagged comments.

by CoastalCoder 4y ago

ck2 4y ago
- rayiner 4y ago
  > even worse suppressing women and minorities Christianity and faith that everyone was created equal in the eyes of God was essential to inventing the concept of racial equality at a time when science couldn’t prove that assertion. Put yourself in 1850–looking around at societies in the world as they existed then—and make a scientific case for racial equality powerful enough to convince hundreds of thousands of free people to sacrifice their lives for it. Even today there’s nowhere more zealously committed to the notion of racial equality than Christian countries.
  - ck2 4y ago
    - abdulhaq 4y ago
      Across the history of man the greatest mass killings of people were instigated by atheists e.g Stalin who murdered millions simply because they were Christian. Most wars are tribal fights where the religion correlates to the tribe and it has little to no effect on causing the war. You even said yourself that it does the opposite, it placates it.
    - rayiner 4y ago
      > Are you kidding me? You realize slavery, torture and beatings was justified based on the bible alone This isn’t a historically correct statement. Slavery has existed in myriad societies that don’t read the Bible. In Civil War era America, the Confederates sought to place themselves on the side of “science” and characterized the union as religious “zealots.” https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/cornerstone-speech https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/cornersto... What’s remarkable about Christian societies is that they ended slavery the way they did. To my knowledge there’s no other example of a society that tore itself apart and where people sacrificed by hundreds of thousands of their own for the freedom of a different group of people.
- bequanna 4y ago
  What an incredibly shallow and immature take on religion. Not everyone who chooses to be involved with a religion has an IQ lower than you or believes in magic. You’re missing something. Something important that religion provides for Billions of people.
fumeux_fume 4y ago

It's pithy, but calling BS on each other's world views is probably the road to flagged comments.

ck2 4y ago

rayiner 4y ago
> even worse suppressing women and minorities Christianity and faith that everyone was created equal in the eyes of God was essential to inventing the concept of racial equality at a time when science couldn’t prove that assertion. Put yourself in 1850–looking around at societies in the world as they existed then—and make a scientific case for racial equality powerful enough to convince hundreds of thousands of free people to sacrifice their lives for it. Even today there’s nowhere more zealously committed to the notion of racial equality than Christian countries.
- ck2 4y ago
  - abdulhaq 4y ago
    Across the history of man the greatest mass killings of people were instigated by atheists e.g Stalin who murdered millions simply because they were Christian. Most wars are tribal fights where the religion correlates to the tribe and it has little to no effect on causing the war. You even said yourself that it does the opposite, it placates it.
  - rayiner 4y ago
    > Are you kidding me? You realize slavery, torture and beatings was justified based on the bible alone This isn’t a historically correct statement. Slavery has existed in myriad societies that don’t read the Bible. In Civil War era America, the Confederates sought to place themselves on the side of “science” and characterized the union as religious “zealots.” https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/cornerstone-speech https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/cornersto... What’s remarkable about Christian societies is that they ended slavery the way they did. To my knowledge there’s no other example of a society that tore itself apart and where people sacrificed by hundreds of thousands of their own for the freedom of a different group of people.
bequanna 4y ago
What an incredibly shallow and immature take on religion. Not everyone who chooses to be involved with a religion has an IQ lower than you or believes in magic. You’re missing something. Something important that religion provides for Billions of people.

fumeux_fume 4y ago