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The huge elephant in the room for those who are on the other side of the transaction of Aella (and other girls who escort) is that the standard flat fee is an a

The huge elephant in the room for those who are on the other side of the transaction of Aella (and other girls who escort) is that the standard flat fee is an absolute joke. It cannot be the same for a wrinkly 91 year old and a 19 year old. Escorts are great, you can land in whatever city in the world, knowing absolutely nobody and you'll get female companionship with dinner date and sex (or even just sex) that same night. The flat fee has to go though. The only way for the 19 year old not to get absolutely screwed by the flat fee is to befriend the escort and try and get in the "friends with benefit zone" with her.

kennywinker 4y ago
This is such a weird comment. Seems like you believe that it’s less work to spend an hour with a 19 year old than a 91 year old? A personal trainer doesn’t charge less for a young client vs an old one. A masseuse neither. You may be a great conversationalist, but your taxi driver is charging the same as if you’re dead silent the whole ride.
- Teever 4y ago
  The implication of your comment is that you'd feel equally comfortable fucking a 19 yo as a 91 yo. I'm not sure that would be the case for everyone if they were presented with the option.
  - kennywinker 4y ago
    I’m in a different line of work, so what I’d do isn’t really relevant. But if I try to project myself into that situation, I think once I’m with someone I didn’t choose, how old or attractive they are doesn’t matter all that much. But that’s just me. Also i’m in my late 30s. I’d feel deeply uncomfortable being with a 19yr old under any circumstances, and in ways that wouldn’t kick in with a 91yr old.
    - Teever 4y ago
      I think the flaw in your line of thinking is that sex workers don't get to choose their clients.
      - kennywinker 4y ago
        That was exactly my point. Either way, at this point this is just two non-sex workers (i assume) saying what they think sex work is like, so i don’t think there’s anything more useful to be said without someone with direct experience joining.
      - yorwba 4y ago
        Aella's guide to escorting includes a section on screening clients: https://aella.substack.com/p/becoming-a-whorelord-the-overly-analytical-guide-to-escorting https://aella.substack.com/p/becoming-a-whorelord-the-overly... Of course she couldn't choose a client who didn't even want to hire her, but rejecting a client who throws up red flags is certainly possible and advisable.
- Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
  > Seems like you believe that it’s less work to spend an hour with a 19 year old than a 91 year old? Of course it is. Every fiber of her body is telling her that the 91 year old is non-viable and repugnant. Every fiber of her body is telling her that the 19 year old is not only viable but yummy. The flat fee is basically the 19 year old subsidizing the 91 year old for the immense effort that the escort has to make to override all the red alarms going off in her brain, heart and gut about having sex with a 91 year old. On the contrary all the indicators are green when she's with the 19 year old but he has to pay the same rate of the 91 year old.
  - kennywinker 4y ago
    There’s a lot of assumptions baked into what you said. Your own repulsion towards age, and sexualizing older people. Your own desire for youth. Lots of other stuff too (perhaps a fantasy of being an exception for any sex worker you’re with? The use of the word “viable” suggests some biological essentialism at play) I’m not saying you’re wrong 100% of the time, but I’d be willing to bet a significant portion of sex workers wouldn’t see things that way at all.
    - Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
      > Your own repulsion towards age It's not me, it's Nature has a repulsion towards age, especially as it relates to sex and sex appeal. That's why people lose sex drive and attractiveness as they age, both men and women. Civilians and Sex workers alike. > perhaps a fantasy of being an exception for any sex worker you’re with? I just don't want to subsidize horny grandpa. Trying to be the exception and becoming friends with benefit as of today is the only rational way to go about it given the flat fee
      - kennywinker 4y ago
        I edited my comment before I saw this, but I was definitely right about biological essentialism. Nature may make a framework for things, but our brains can work us out of that framework very easily. Not to mention you’re just wrong - plenty of older people (mostly women) would describe their sex drive as higher than ever.
MichaelCollins 4y ago
What standard flat fees are you talking about? Escorts don't have standard flat fees, different escorts charge different amounts.
- Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
  It's a flat fee when the escort charges the same identical fee whether you are a 91 year old or a 19 year old.
  - MichaelCollins 4y ago
    Oh. I'm sure some do that, and I'm sure some don't. It's a generally unregulated business, the workers charge as they see fit. If that's the way they want to do business, then so what? If those terms aren't acceptable to you, then walk away.
yucky 4y ago
This comment makes no sense. There are no regulations requiring a hooker to charge a flat fee. They charge what they want and Johns either pay it or they don't. What an odd take.

kennywinker 4y ago

This is such a weird comment. Seems like you believe that it’s less work to spend an hour with a 19 year old than a 91 year old? A personal trainer doesn’t charge less for a young client vs an old one. A masseuse neither. You may be a great conversationalist, but your taxi driver is charging the same as if you’re dead silent the whole ride.

Teever 4y ago
The implication of your comment is that you'd feel equally comfortable fucking a 19 yo as a 91 yo. I'm not sure that would be the case for everyone if they were presented with the option.
- kennywinker 4y ago
  I’m in a different line of work, so what I’d do isn’t really relevant. But if I try to project myself into that situation, I think once I’m with someone I didn’t choose, how old or attractive they are doesn’t matter all that much. But that’s just me. Also i’m in my late 30s. I’d feel deeply uncomfortable being with a 19yr old under any circumstances, and in ways that wouldn’t kick in with a 91yr old.
  - Teever 4y ago
    I think the flaw in your line of thinking is that sex workers don't get to choose their clients.
    - kennywinker 4y ago
      That was exactly my point. Either way, at this point this is just two non-sex workers (i assume) saying what they think sex work is like, so i don’t think there’s anything more useful to be said without someone with direct experience joining.
    - yorwba 4y ago
      Aella's guide to escorting includes a section on screening clients: https://aella.substack.com/p/becoming-a-whorelord-the-overly-analytical-guide-to-escorting https://aella.substack.com/p/becoming-a-whorelord-the-overly... Of course she couldn't choose a client who didn't even want to hire her, but rejecting a client who throws up red flags is certainly possible and advisable.
Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
> Seems like you believe that it’s less work to spend an hour with a 19 year old than a 91 year old? Of course it is. Every fiber of her body is telling her that the 91 year old is non-viable and repugnant. Every fiber of her body is telling her that the 19 year old is not only viable but yummy. The flat fee is basically the 19 year old subsidizing the 91 year old for the immense effort that the escort has to make to override all the red alarms going off in her brain, heart and gut about having sex with a 91 year old. On the contrary all the indicators are green when she's with the 19 year old but he has to pay the same rate of the 91 year old.
- kennywinker 4y ago
  There’s a lot of assumptions baked into what you said. Your own repulsion towards age, and sexualizing older people. Your own desire for youth. Lots of other stuff too (perhaps a fantasy of being an exception for any sex worker you’re with? The use of the word “viable” suggests some biological essentialism at play) I’m not saying you’re wrong 100% of the time, but I’d be willing to bet a significant portion of sex workers wouldn’t see things that way at all.
  - Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
    > Your own repulsion towards age It's not me, it's Nature has a repulsion towards age, especially as it relates to sex and sex appeal. That's why people lose sex drive and attractiveness as they age, both men and women. Civilians and Sex workers alike. > perhaps a fantasy of being an exception for any sex worker you’re with? I just don't want to subsidize horny grandpa. Trying to be the exception and becoming friends with benefit as of today is the only rational way to go about it given the flat fee
    - kennywinker 4y ago
      I edited my comment before I saw this, but I was definitely right about biological essentialism. Nature may make a framework for things, but our brains can work us out of that framework very easily. Not to mention you’re just wrong - plenty of older people (mostly women) would describe their sex drive as higher than ever.

MichaelCollins 4y ago

What standard flat fees are you talking about? Escorts don't have standard flat fees, different escorts charge different amounts.

Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
It's a flat fee when the escort charges the same identical fee whether you are a 91 year old or a 19 year old.
- MichaelCollins 4y ago
  Oh. I'm sure some do that, and I'm sure some don't. It's a generally unregulated business, the workers charge as they see fit. If that's the way they want to do business, then so what? If those terms aren't acceptable to you, then walk away.

yucky 4y ago

This comment makes no sense. There are no regulations requiring a hooker to charge a flat fee. They charge what they want and Johns either pay it or they don't. What an odd take.