I'm mainly talking about ads here, which is what you were celebrating. I agree there are other kinds of marketing. Many of which are much less manipulative. An

I'm mainly talking about ads here, which is what you were celebrating. I agree there are other kinds of marketing. Many of which are much less manipulative. And I already listed some ways that one could find new products without ads. You have listed some too. It looks like you're well on your way to imagining how a world could work without ads.