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Alternative wonders of the world
- _Microft 4y agoHere it is on Nitter: https://nitter.net/ulturaltutor/status/1553472360434515973 https://nitter.net/ulturaltutor/status/1553472360434515973 Make sure to check the replies, there are other amazing buildings in there.
- wszfahwbwbaha 4y agowow this is a really bad site. Why are you posting it?
- jansan 4y agoIt is useful for people who have blocked Twitter. The slower the better, because you will nto get addicted to it.
- tshaddox 4y agoPresumably most people who have blocked Twitter haven’t done so because they want an even worse version of Twitter.
- deepdriver 4y agoIt's better than Twitter in that 1) it does not require an account, as Twitter increasingly does even to view tweets, and 2) it strips much of Twitter's tracking and advertising JavaScript.
- SahAssar 4y agoIt's lighter than twitter, it has less tracking, it doesn't nag you to sign in on every pageload or while scrolling. And it has the same content as it is an alternative frontend for the same data. So for everyone who does not want to post on twitter it is probably a better experience.
- finiteseries 4y agoAlways avoid using the main nitter.net instance, it’s slow even in DE. If you’re in the US, try https://nttr.stream/ulturaltutor/status/1553472360434515973 https://nttr.stream/ulturaltutor/status/1553472360434515973
- gadtfly 4y agohttps://github.com/zedeus/nitter/wiki/Instances https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/wiki/Instances
- dmoo 4y agoSome of these and more are featured in Around the World in 80 Treasures which I highly recommend. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x80ubq1 https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x80ubq1
- jollyllama 4y agoI'd add Mont-Saint-Michel, France.
- stevage 4y agoTo me, towns are a bit out of place. I get a greater sense of wonder from a large building created with single minded purpose, rather than villages that grew over time.
- hayst4ck 4y agoThe picture does not do Mehrangarh justice. It is quite an imposing citadel looming over the city. It is particularly grand at night.
- omnibrain 4y agoI thought this would be about the "New 7 Wonders of the World" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_7_Wonders_of_the_World https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_7_Wonders_of_the_World It started in 2000, back when the web still felt like a magical place of possibilities. There was this Organization to crown 7 New World Wonders and everyone can participate via the Internet! Around the same time there was also an initiative to collect names and send them (via broadcast?) to space. I can't find references to this anymore, only to newer initiatives like with Artemis. But it was also pretty exciting.
- bluedevil2k 4y agoThe New 7 Wonders of the World was marred by over-marketing and vote stuffing resulting in a second or 3rd tier “Wonder” like Christ the Redeemer making the list.
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- civilized 4y agoMy dream: when we look at these, we remember them for the craftsmen whose creative genius made them possible, not for the Ozymandiases who happened to be sitting at the top when their construction was ordered.
- nonrandomstring 4y agoLike many "wonders" the Great Pyramids at Giza were tombs and memorials to the dead. Can't say I feel moved by the life of 2800 year old pharaohs, but two "alternatives" that do stir me are here: Bayeux War Cemetery, Normandy, France Vietnam War Memorial, Washington, DC, USA
- jl6 4y agoNot sure if maybe you were referring to something else, but the Great Pyramid of Giza is closer to 4500 years old. I personally think it’s wondrous that anything at all survives from so long ago, let alone something of such staggering geometry.
- deepdriver 4y agoAnd they were already ancient in what we now call ancient times. Cleopatra lived closer to the 1969 Moon landing than to the time of the construction of the Great Pyramid.
- DiggyJohnson 4y agoI think we need an "alternative fun facts" thread to replace these well-worn ones.
- deepdriver 4y agoHow about this one? The Ancient Babylonians had asphalt roads, as long ago as 600 BC and maybe earlier: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asphalt#Ancient_times https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asphalt#Ancient_times https://trid.trb.org/view/694262 https://trid.trb.org/view/694262
- mcphage 4y agoHomer Simpson's mother was named after Steve Job's sister.
- RC_ITR 4y ago> let alone something of such staggering geometry. That’s what is so cool about it. It’s more or less the shape of a naturally occurring mountain, which just so happens to be the shape most resistant to erosion. Primitive interior arch-work and interior passageways notwithstanding.
- voz_ 4y agoThese wonders are cool, but "alternative" is lame - the initial list was about the wonders of classical antiquity. The origin of the idea of a list of wonders goes back to a few hundred BC, the structures themselves being a few hundred to a few thousand years old at that point already. That being said - the point is that it should be relatively personal, and a good deal subjective - not entirely objective. To provide an "alternative" list means that one is seeking a rejection or counter opinion to what is seen as canonical... when no such canonical list exists. Even the original 7, where often not 7, and were not uniformly agreed upon ever.
- partdavid 4y agoWhat you say is right, and occurred to me, too. But there's another sense of "alternative" at play--not that the list is an alternative to another list, but that these sites are alternatives to more commonly-noted ones. There are a handful of modern wonders lists, and they (and other media) often focus on a few "usual suspects", like the Taj Mahal and Machu Picchu. So maybe in the spirit of the post it's "Some wonderful sites you may not have heard about", and that doesn't seem like a bad thing.
- causi 4y agoMy vote goes to the Internet Archive for being a wonder of the world.
- jl6 4y agoThere are some definitional challenges here for sure - when is something a thing, rather than a collection of things? Is the internet itself a thing that could be listed? What about a city? The international road network? What about the anti-ice-age device we’ve been busy installing in the atmosphere?
- partdavid 4y agoYou raise a really interesting point for discussion! > when is something a thing, rather than a collection of things? That's a false dichotomy--a collection is itself a thing, of course. And most things are made up of other things. A building, after all, is itself a collection of structural system, building materials and individual. A city is listed. For a thing to be listed on a list of wonders, I'd submit that it has to have a well-accepted, reasonably unambiguous name for that thing. So "the international road network" is a no: but the U.S. Interstate Highway System--maybe. Although the lighthouse at Alexandria was one of the original wonders, I'd submit that the Library of Alexandria could also be named as a wonder, despite being the most literal collection of things you could imagine. So why not the Internet Archive? That one, in particular, is wondrous because it's a collection--it doesn't simply contain the wonder of some other thing. I'd also submit that a category or type of thing (so "the typewriter", "the lightbulb", "computers") are not a wonder, in this sense. To be inspired by the wonders of the ancient world, they probably also have to be constructed; others have posited wonders of the natural world, but they do feel like they fall into a different category.
- jccalhoun 4y agoI had never heard of the Tomb of Emperor Nintoku and was wondering why it was included since it just looked like a park in that picture. Looking into it, it turns out the lighter green outline of the keyhole is actually a moat and the keyhole is a burial mound. It was created during the 5th century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozu_Tombs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozu_Tombs
- deepdriver 4y agoThe history of the Great Mosque of Djenne is apparently a bit controversial: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mosque_of_Djenn%C3%A9#Present_mosque https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mosque_of_Djenn%C3%A9#Pr... >Dubois revisited Djenné in 1910 and was shocked by the new building. He believed that the French colonial administration were responsible for the design and wrote that it looked like a cross between a hedgehog and a church organ. He thought that the cones made the building resemble a baroque temple dedicated to the god of suppositories. By contrast, Jean-Louis Bourgeois has argued that the French had little influence except perhaps for the internal arches and that the design is "basically African." >French ethnologist Michel Leiris, in his account of traveling through Mali in 1931, states that the new mosque is indeed the work of Europeans. He also says that local people were so unhappy with the new building that they refused to clean it, only doing so when threatened with prison. >Jean-Louis Bourgeois however, recorded that the rebuilt mosque was constructed by Djenné's traditional local guild of masons, traditionally responsible for the building and maintenance of the town's original mosque and of Djenné's other buildings, using traditional techniques and with minimal French involvement.
- Aransentin 4y agoHow about the Turpan water system? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turpan_water_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turpan_water_system An artificial oasis city built in the Late Middle Ages* on the Taklamakan Desert for travellers along the Silk Road, it provided irrigation by having more than 5,000km of hand-dug underground tunnels to transport water from the mountains; an IMHO extremely impressive feat of geoengineering for the time. * https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-00728-7_17 https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-00728-7_...
- thaumasiotes 4y ago> it provided irrigation by having more than 5,000km of hand-dug underground tunnels to transport water from the mountains; an IMHO extremely impressive feat of geoengineering for the time. This was a very common form of water engineering for the region; the technology was thousands of years old at that point. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qanat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qanat
- dan-robertson 4y agoChurches/mosques were common in the places where the OP picked churches/mosques. I don’t think the fact that qanats existed widely for a long time should necessarily disqualify this instance.
- boffinAudio 4y agoNarwala Gabarnmang definitely needs to be on this list, since it predates all of them and indeed seems to have inspired a lot of them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabarnmung https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabarnmung I'd put Gobekli Tepe/"The Other" Tepe's on the list as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe These sites literally inspire un-ending, immense wonder to any who care to probe their depths.