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That’s one way to see it. Another is that those “abusive comments” aren’t abusive in any way - in fact abusive comments are widely tolerated here - but they ar

by trasz 4y ago

That’s one way to see it. Another is that those “abusive comments” aren’t abusive in any way - in fact abusive comments are widely tolerated here - but they are politically incorrect to you. Did you warn users who posted “abusive comments” towards covid denialists or flat earthers?

dang 4y ago
It's not just in the eye of the beholder - the comments that I've scolded you about, including https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32279605 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32279605 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32279588 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32279588 in this thread, were obviously breaking the site guidelines. If you don't stop doing this, we will ban you. If you're asking whether we moderate, scold, and ban other accounts that break the site guidelines, regardless of which views they're for or against, the answer is certainly. That does't mean we catch every case, but that's because we don't come close to reading everything that gets posted here. There's far too much. Re "politically incorrect to you": every politically passionate user who gets moderated here feels like the mods must secretly be conniving with the other side. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=%22always%20feels%22%20mods%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... This perception is a function of political passion. People either don't notice the cases going the other way, or discount them.
- trasz 4y ago
  So like I said, not showing enough respect towards fringe theories is obviously breaking the guidelines. Fine, I’ll comply. I don’t feel like you’re “with the other side” - of course your interests here are different than mine, but that’s orthogonal. What I do feel is that certain topics - like the fringe theories on religion and politics - are a taboo here. And that’s a problem, because same way you can’t understand computer architecture without at least general grasp on manufacturing, or the fashionable web technologies without understanding the startup business model, the same way you can’t understand the world without understanding the forces governing it - including the pathological cases, which appear to be a taboo here. Don’t you think enforcing taboos goes against the hacker ethos?
  - dang 4y ago
    That's not an accurate description of what we're doing. It's all much simpler than that.

by trasz 4y ago

dang 4y ago

It's not just in the eye of the beholder - the comments that I've scolded you about, including https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32279605 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32279605 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32279588 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32279588 in this thread, were obviously breaking the site guidelines. If you don't stop doing this, we will ban you. If you're asking whether we moderate, scold, and ban other accounts that break the site guidelines, regardless of which views they're for or against, the answer is certainly. That does't mean we catch every case, but that's because we don't come close to reading everything that gets posted here. There's far too much. Re "politically incorrect to you": every politically passionate user who gets moderated here feels like the mods must secretly be conniving with the other side. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=%22always%20feels%22%20mods%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... This perception is a function of political passion. People either don't notice the cases going the other way, or discount them.

trasz 4y ago
So like I said, not showing enough respect towards fringe theories is obviously breaking the guidelines. Fine, I’ll comply. I don’t feel like you’re “with the other side” - of course your interests here are different than mine, but that’s orthogonal. What I do feel is that certain topics - like the fringe theories on religion and politics - are a taboo here. And that’s a problem, because same way you can’t understand computer architecture without at least general grasp on manufacturing, or the fashionable web technologies without understanding the startup business model, the same way you can’t understand the world without understanding the forces governing it - including the pathological cases, which appear to be a taboo here. Don’t you think enforcing taboos goes against the hacker ethos?
- dang 4y ago
  That's not an accurate description of what we're doing. It's all much simpler than that.