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I disagree that Clojure needs a Rails, in the sense that there's a single framework to use for all web server needs. However, I do really think Clojure needs a

by Jeaye 4y ago

I disagree that Clojure needs a Rails, in the sense that there's a single framework to use for all web server needs. However, I do really think Clojure needs a better documentation story for web development across the board. Getting a ring + reitit + malli + integrant + core.async + vertx-mongo server running requires putting together a _lot_ of different pieces. A framework is one way to solve this, but so too is documentation. Perhaps it's just my Clojure mindset, but I'd be hesitant to reach for a one-stop-shop framework for all of the above, but I would definitely be interested in some docs which helped guide me hook all of them together. Is there such a thing as a documentation framework? :) -- Thinking about how Clojure devs feel about libraries makes me realize how ironic it is that so many of them use Emacs.

teodorlu 4y ago
> but I would definitely be interested in some docs which helped guide me hook all of them together. Is there such a thing as a documentation framework? :) What's the first step to making those docs? There are resources floating around, but they can be hard to find. I really like the docs for http-kit and luminous - they are cohesive.
uxcolumbo 4y ago
> I would definitely be interested in some docs which helped guide me hook all of them together Yogthos put together this guide - in book format: https://pragprog.com/titles/dswdcloj3/web-development-with-clojure-third-edition/ https://pragprog.com/titles/dswdcloj3/web-development-with-c... - Additional links: https://yogthos.net/posts/2022-01-08-IntroducingKit.html https://yogthos.net/posts/2022-01-08-IntroducingKit.html https://kit-clj.github.io/ https://kit-clj.github.io/ https://luminusweb.com/ https://luminusweb.com/
valyagolev 4y ago
Lein templates are a great way to get started with a lot of pieces already in. Perhaps there's already a template for your needs

by Jeaye 4y ago

teodorlu 4y ago

> but I would definitely be interested in some docs which helped guide me hook all of them together. Is there such a thing as a documentation framework? :) What's the first step to making those docs? There are resources floating around, but they can be hard to find. I really like the docs for http-kit and luminous - they are cohesive.

uxcolumbo 4y ago

> I would definitely be interested in some docs which helped guide me hook all of them together Yogthos put together this guide - in book format: https://pragprog.com/titles/dswdcloj3/web-development-with-clojure-third-edition/ https://pragprog.com/titles/dswdcloj3/web-development-with-c... - Additional links: https://yogthos.net/posts/2022-01-08-IntroducingKit.html https://yogthos.net/posts/2022-01-08-IntroducingKit.html https://kit-clj.github.io/ https://kit-clj.github.io/ https://luminusweb.com/ https://luminusweb.com/

valyagolev 4y ago

Lein templates are a great way to get started with a lot of pieces already in. Perhaps there's already a template for your needs