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https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/06/13/about-six-in-ten-americans-say-abortion-should-be-legal-in-all-or-most-cases-2/ft_2022-06-13_abortion_04/ https

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/06/13/about-six-in-ten-americans-say-abortion-should-be-legal-in-all-or-most-cases-2/ft_2022-06-13_abortion_04/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/06/13/about-six-i... That’s not what these numbers say. Can you list sources?

JamesBarney 4y ago
I don't think the numbers you posted disagree with what he said at all. If you make abortion illegal at the 13th week with exceptions for the next two trimesters for rape/incest/fetal viability/health of the mother you end up with 96% of currently performed abortions would still be legal. So I'd like to make abortion illegal after the 13th week is totally compatible with I'd like abortion be legal in most cases.
- throwaway5959 4y ago
  Yeah but that’s not what a lot of states that want to ban abortion are doing. Edit: honestly, I don’t care. I’m too tired to argue minutiae. Goodnight.
  - rayiner 4y ago
    Yeah, now Democrats are talking about total bans, exceptions for rape and incest, etc. But until a couple of months ago, the law of the land was elective abortions until the fetus was viable on the outside, and many 2020 DNC candidates wanted to push further: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/25/us/politics/abortion-laws-2020-democrats.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/25/us/politics/abortion-laws...
rayiner 4y ago
See: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23167397/abortion-public-opinion-polls-americans https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23167397/abortion-pu... and https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx and https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/06/jayapals-claim-that-majority-country-supports-federal-funding-abortion https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/06/jayapals-... Insofar as the de facto democrat position is elective abortion to 24 weeks, federal funding, no counseling or waiting periods, and tolerance of “celebrate your abortion” messaging, that cedes territory to the GOP. In states like Texas, 20% of Democrats support abortion only in cases of rape or incest or where the mother’s life is threatened. In those states, the GOP could triangulate a winning position through a heartbeat law coupled with more government support for mothers and children.

JamesBarney 4y ago

I don't think the numbers you posted disagree with what he said at all. If you make abortion illegal at the 13th week with exceptions for the next two trimesters for rape/incest/fetal viability/health of the mother you end up with 96% of currently performed abortions would still be legal. So I'd like to make abortion illegal after the 13th week is totally compatible with I'd like abortion be legal in most cases.

throwaway5959 4y ago
Yeah but that’s not what a lot of states that want to ban abortion are doing. Edit: honestly, I don’t care. I’m too tired to argue minutiae. Goodnight.
- rayiner 4y ago
  Yeah, now Democrats are talking about total bans, exceptions for rape and incest, etc. But until a couple of months ago, the law of the land was elective abortions until the fetus was viable on the outside, and many 2020 DNC candidates wanted to push further: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/25/us/politics/abortion-laws-2020-democrats.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/25/us/politics/abortion-laws...

rayiner 4y ago

See: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23167397/abortion-public-opinion-polls-americans https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23167397/abortion-pu... and https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx and https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/06/jayapals-claim-that-majority-country-supports-federal-funding-abortion https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/06/jayapals-... Insofar as the de facto democrat position is elective abortion to 24 weeks, federal funding, no counseling or waiting periods, and tolerance of “celebrate your abortion” messaging, that cedes territory to the GOP. In states like Texas, 20% of Democrats support abortion only in cases of rape or incest or where the mother’s life is threatened. In those states, the GOP could triangulate a winning position through a heartbeat law coupled with more government support for mothers and children.