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The web is peer to peer if everyone just runs a static webserver. Back when Opera was still Opera they integrated a webserver into the browser (with a naming sy

The web is peer to peer if everyone just runs a static webserver. Back when Opera was still Opera they integrated a webserver into the browser (with a naming system/proxy through Opera). If this would've taken off the human (but not the commercial) web would be a very different place. It still can be. I host a static nginx webserver from home and just use a text editor to look at my log of POSTS to participate in p2p web techs like indieweb's webmention.

JediLuke 4y ago
IPv6 and phones (many people never allow their phone to get so flat it dies, and if it does it’s soon recharged) ought to mean that every person in the world can host their own website effortlessly. The tech industry (telco & Google/Apple) make this basically impossible, so we (the tech industry) are the ones to blame IMHO.
- smaudet 4y ago
  Android/iOS, IPV4 shortage issues, technical hurdles, yeah the list abounds. Don't even need a phone, 10 dollar computers exist, it's mostly an accessibility issue, both of tech and IP. The big reason to ditch the modern web entirely, though, is DNS - you pay a centralized thousands of dollars for rights to a name - if That's not centralization I don't know what is. Truly decentralized means anyone hosts google.com, only difference is you pick which certs to trust. Probably by consulting your regional office/town hall, or similar.
- theamk 4y ago
  Phones also die and/or get discarded regularly, and a lot (most?) people don't do backups at all, or rely on cloud for backups. Not to mention that I want my phone's battery to last as long as possible, and hosting websites off it will have an opposite effect.
- onion2k 4y ago
  Allowing incoming network traffic from any random place to a device that people install apps like free games on sounds like a really bad idea.
  - superkuh 4y ago
    Do you think it's worse than using an application which runs untrusted remote code by design? A static webserver is incomparibly more secure and less of an attack surface than simply running a modern browser with JS enabled.
janandonly 4y ago
Many people today only use a laptop sometimes and are more on a smartphone than anything else. Too bad, Android and iOS don't allow background apps to be sending/receiving continuously. Too bad also that NAT over IP4 basically means you can't run a web server from a smartphone, even if you wished to do so.

JediLuke 4y ago

IPv6 and phones (many people never allow their phone to get so flat it dies, and if it does it’s soon recharged) ought to mean that every person in the world can host their own website effortlessly. The tech industry (telco & Google/Apple) make this basically impossible, so we (the tech industry) are the ones to blame IMHO.

smaudet 4y ago
Android/iOS, IPV4 shortage issues, technical hurdles, yeah the list abounds. Don't even need a phone, 10 dollar computers exist, it's mostly an accessibility issue, both of tech and IP. The big reason to ditch the modern web entirely, though, is DNS - you pay a centralized thousands of dollars for rights to a name - if That's not centralization I don't know what is. Truly decentralized means anyone hosts google.com, only difference is you pick which certs to trust. Probably by consulting your regional office/town hall, or similar.
theamk 4y ago
Phones also die and/or get discarded regularly, and a lot (most?) people don't do backups at all, or rely on cloud for backups. Not to mention that I want my phone's battery to last as long as possible, and hosting websites off it will have an opposite effect.
onion2k 4y ago
Allowing incoming network traffic from any random place to a device that people install apps like free games on sounds like a really bad idea.
- superkuh 4y ago
  Do you think it's worse than using an application which runs untrusted remote code by design? A static webserver is incomparibly more secure and less of an attack surface than simply running a modern browser with JS enabled.

janandonly 4y ago

Many people today only use a laptop sometimes and are more on a smartphone than anything else. Too bad, Android and iOS don't allow background apps to be sending/receiving continuously. Too bad also that NAT over IP4 basically means you can't run a web server from a smartphone, even if you wished to do so.