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I'm sure many people who took part in historical lynchings against minorities thought themselves absolutely justified and were having a grand ol' time doing it.
by crooked-v 4y ago
I'm sure many people who took part in historical lynchings against minorities thought themselves absolutely justified and were having a grand ol' time doing it. If you look up the records, you'll find that some lynchings were even treated as spontaneous parties by the aggressors: they broke out the good booze, started up some campfire cooking, danced and played music... all while their targets hung dead in the background or, sometimes, slowly choked to death.
None of that makes it any less of a hateful act.
- b112 4y agoYou are now discussing an entirely different thibg, I therefore presume you had no valid response to my prior comment.
- jamiek88 4y agoYour comments about this are just plain boring when we see the injustice around us every single day. We don’t want to lean back in our comfort and pontificate from our position of privilege and safety and ‘well, akchtually’ people who experience these acts of hate and violence. Teaching and believing and spreading that some people are inferior because of where they were born or the color of their skin is just plain wrong. If you are telling your kids that, it isn’t an opinion, it’s hate. It isn’t a position that deserves debate, conversation or any space in our polities. Tolerance has it’s limits and a lot of people are tired and refusing to tolerate the likes of your juvenile, puerile attempts at ‘conversation’.
- b112 4y agoMy prior comments discussed zero acts of violence, and further, you are pontificating the second you reply to anything on hackernews. People here have been discussing how to teach people about equality, how to resolve racism in the young. My comment was about ensuring that is targeted correctly, both in youth and older people, so it actually works. You cannot fix something, if you target the wrong thing to fix. You cannot fix something, if you don't even understand the source of the issue. But sure... yell at the guy trying to rationally frame this issue, so we can correctly fix it. That makes sense.
- tptacek 4y agoSee what I mean about unproductive semantic debates? I recommend you just use the word the way everyone else does; that's what words are for, communicating. When you do the "a-ha, gotcha, I meant something totally unexpected by the word 'hate'" thing, most of what you manage to communicate is that you think racial hatred is a game.
- b112 4y agoSee what I mean about unproductive semantic debates? I recommend you just use the word the way everyone else does; that's what words are for, communicating What presumption! A few responses, are not indicative of the world, or even a majority opinion. They do not indicate "the way everyone else does", and in fact may be responses from people misusing the word! This seems more to be the case, for the responses either tried to paint my statments in a poor light, even after I clarified my usage, or went off the deep end. When you do the "a-ha, gotcha, I meant something totally unexpected by the word 'hate'" thing, What are you even talking about? I clearly defined this from the start. most of what you manage to communicate is that you think racial hatred is a game. A game? It is as if you have not read my posts, or this thread. Or even the post you are responding to. Just because I think racism can exist without hatred, does not mean racism cannot be hate based. This all or nothing, this "it is this way, and no other way", this "a problem can only be approached from one angle" thinking seldom results in solutions. And we want to fix things, right? We don't just want to complain, and throw words at it, right? Or do we want to understand, frame correctly, then fix?