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I teach at a college. I stopped caring about cheating a while back. It’s not worth the hassle of reporting a student who cheats and the college needs students
by czstar 4y ago
I teach at a college. I stopped caring about cheating a while back. It’s not worth the hassle of reporting a student who cheats and the college needs students. College is being treated as a business and the client is the student.
- mlindner 4y agoPlease don't contribute to the problem. If you catch them cheating, get them thrown out of the university.
- czstar 4y agoAt my salary? Not worth the trouble. Especially since no one in the chain of command wants to deal with it and nothing of real consequence will happen. The problem is far greater than me and it’s not worth it to try to care.
- mlindner 4y agoYou're not teaching your students well if you teach them cheating is rewarded. Not to mention the other students who are forced to learn that cheating is rewarded by the other students cheating and must cheat to compete. IMO you shouldn't even be a teacher if that's your opinion.
- czstar 4y agoI don’t grade on a curve. Each person’s grade is independent of each other student. There is no competition for grades as such. Me sucking as a teacher is a different matter. My question to you. Given what I implied about pay and what I said about apathy of my bosses on this issue what makes you think you’d respond differently than me after 25 years in the system?
- FreakLegion 4y agoA lot depends on the school I'm sure. I failed a student for plagiarism once and there was no hassle, but it was a pretty big research university and 15 years ago. Dealing with football and basketball coaches whose players were failing, on the other hand, was absurd.
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- geraldwhen 4y agoI don’t blame you. I just wish all parties involved could be honest. Don’t make me sit through an hour long academic integrity presentation if everyone can cheat and there are no consequences. It would save students a lot of time to just admit they would purchase homework solutions. Give them passing grades, and then there’s less grading work for the TA to boot. Kabuki theater college is ridiculous.
- czstar 4y agoI don’t advertise that I don’t care about cheating to the students and I don’t make them sit through a presentation either. The problem is that we need tuition dollars so admin isn’t going to expel someone except in an extreme situation. I need a job which means I need students to want to enroll in my classes so I don’t want a reputation of being a hard ass. Everyone just pretends. Students pretend to not cheat, admin pretends to care about standards, and I pretend to care about cheating. I don’t give quizzes or graded assignments anymore. I just give a few tests because, well, as you said, Kabuki theater college is ridiculous.
- gwerbret 4y agoBy ignoring cheaters, you're penalizing honest students, who suffer grade deflation as a result. Even if you don't grade on a curve, and there is no resulting grade deflation, the honest students will have devoted significantly more effort for the same grade. Either way, only the honest suffer. Is that an ideal outcome?
- Jensson 4y agoBut an individual teacher gains nothing for reporting cheaters, even though reporting and handling the aftermath is a huge amount of work.