Clojure is intended as a hosted language and embracing the host is the philosophy, so interop with the host is never a bandage. Again, I am curious where you g

Clojure is intended as a hosted language and embracing the host is the philosophy, so interop with the host is never a bandage. Again, I am curious where you get all these impressions that are contrary to most people in the community take for granted, such as: * Clojurians prefer libraries over framework, but you said we spent too much effort in developing "big web framework". * Clojure is intended to be a hosted language, so seamless interop with the host is the norm, but you thought interop is a bandage until Clojure matures. It's very interesting.