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I'm a little confused by the discussion here. Please forgive me if I've missed something obvious. Much of the discussion seems to be around the government (us
by nobody9999 4y ago
I'm a little confused by the discussion here. Please forgive me if I've missed something obvious.
Much of the discussion seems to be around the government (usually, but not limited to, police) monitoring the location and operation of a vehicle on public roads.
While I'm not a huge fan of government surveillance, registering a vehicle (and obtaining a driver's license) and monitoring the performance of that vehicle (and its driver(s)) are governmental functions purporting to ensure the safe operation of a vehicle.
Corporate entities, like auto manufacturers, dealers and "tech" companies have no such responsibility, nor do they have any role in (except in abiding by the law/regulation -- e.g., emissions standards).
So, unless there is some sort of government mandate to collect such information, corporate entities have no reason (other than their own profit) to collect location, velocity and/or in-vehicle activities.
IMNSHO, that they do so should be much more concerning than red light or speed cameras, being followed for a few miles by the police, or as is popular where street parking is a thing, checking registration/inspection expiry.
Just as one (or should be) is horrified by the levels of tracking by corporate entities on IOT devices, "smart" TVs, dishwashers(?!?), etc., etc., etc., why are folks focusing on the government here?
They aren't gathering the boatloads of information being collected by the corporate entities (and if the government starts buying such data, they should be smacked down hard!) that are invading/destroying what little privacy we might have.
As such, I don't get why the focus is on the government rather than on the folks actually gathering all this data.
- devoutsalsa 4y agoYou might change your mind when the government starts tracking the fact that you drove to an abortion clinic.
- nobody9999 4y ago>You might change your mind when the government starts tracking the fact that you drove to an abortion clinic. Where might the government get such data? They certainly aren't gathering it themselves. Rather, it will come from the corporate entities that are already gathering such data. What's more, I can organize my neighbors to vote out folks who want to spy on me. I can't do that (well, I guess if I had a few trillion dollars to buy majority stakes in various corporations, although that wouldn't work with Facebook[0] though) with the corporations that are already spying on me. Just so I understand your position, you appear to believe that bad things a government might do with the help of corporations that are already doing those bad things is what we should be concerned about rather than what those same corporations are already doing. Is that your argument? I just want to make sure I understand, as I'd like to have a discussion and not create straw men. Thanks! [0] https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-control-facebook-whistleblower-key-man-risk-2021-10?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-control-face...