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our household reduced meat and dairy by 95%, its not hard or a hardship.

by MrMan 4y ago

towaway15463 4y ago
To each his own
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googlryas 4y ago
The world will never go horseless. The richer one gets, the more horses one owns. And the whole world is getting richer. Therefore the world will be filled with horses soon.
- gtsop 4y ago
  The world is not getting richer, some few are getting richer. The vast majority is going light years away from getting a horse
  - throwaway0x7E6 4y ago
    in the West, the quality of life has been steadily declining for the past 50 years. in India, China and Southeast Asia, where two thirds of humans reside, it has been steadily improving. things aren't great, but much better than they used to be. China, for example, is facing a slow exodus of Western capital, because it is no longer cheap to manufacture things there, with median income approaching Eastern European levels.
    - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
      > the West, the quality of life has been steadily declining for the past 50 years Based on what metric? Because on measures of health, wealth and happiness it's bee a good half century.
      - throwaway0x7E6 4y ago
        the middle class is rapidly shrinking. that's the most damning metric the lower classes are worse off now than they were then. home ownership and education are unattainable, healthcare is unaffordable, the overall quality of life is rapidly declining.
        JumpCrisscross 4y ago
        > lower classes are worse off now than they were then This is objectively untrue in terms of real incomes and net financial position. Life expectancy, too, has gone up since the 70s. Consider the quality of life of America’s destitute in 2022 vs. 1972 and the choice is apparent. This isn’t a roses and sunshine pitch. But believing the West is in decline (versus being caught up to) is a common mistake that leads to predictably bad outcomes.
  - kar5pt 4y ago
    Do you have evidence of this? It seems false on its face. https://intellectualtakeout.org/2018/09/is-the-world-really-getting-richer/ https://intellectualtakeout.org/2018/09/is-the-world-really-...

our household reduced meat and dairy by 95%, its not hard or a hardship.

by MrMan 4y ago

our household reduced meat and dairy by 95%, its not hard or a hardship.

towaway15463 4y ago

To each his own

deleted 4y ago

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googlryas 4y ago

The world will never go horseless. The richer one gets, the more horses one owns. And the whole world is getting richer. Therefore the world will be filled with horses soon.

gtsop 4y ago
The world is not getting richer, some few are getting richer. The vast majority is going light years away from getting a horse
- throwaway0x7E6 4y ago
  in the West, the quality of life has been steadily declining for the past 50 years. in India, China and Southeast Asia, where two thirds of humans reside, it has been steadily improving. things aren't great, but much better than they used to be. China, for example, is facing a slow exodus of Western capital, because it is no longer cheap to manufacture things there, with median income approaching Eastern European levels.
  - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
    > the West, the quality of life has been steadily declining for the past 50 years Based on what metric? Because on measures of health, wealth and happiness it's bee a good half century.
    - throwaway0x7E6 4y ago
      the middle class is rapidly shrinking. that's the most damning metric the lower classes are worse off now than they were then. home ownership and education are unattainable, healthcare is unaffordable, the overall quality of life is rapidly declining.
      - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
        > lower classes are worse off now than they were then This is objectively untrue in terms of real incomes and net financial position. Life expectancy, too, has gone up since the 70s. Consider the quality of life of America’s destitute in 2022 vs. 1972 and the choice is apparent. This isn’t a roses and sunshine pitch. But believing the West is in decline (versus being caught up to) is a common mistake that leads to predictably bad outcomes.
- kar5pt 4y ago
  Do you have evidence of this? It seems false on its face. https://intellectualtakeout.org/2018/09/is-the-world-really-getting-richer/ https://intellectualtakeout.org/2018/09/is-the-world-really-...