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anybody should have a right to go and live anywhere. But no one is entitled to be able to afford to live anywhere they want.

by option 4y ago

solardev 4y ago
I think the problem for more and more people is that there's not many places left to live, anywhere, if you want even a lower middle class life.
- option 4y ago
  this can’t be true by definition. E.g. 80% of places can’t be in top 10% by cost of living.
  - solardev 4y ago
    It can if most of the wealth is concentrated in a tiny percentage of the population and everyone else has to share rooms...
- yucky 4y ago
  Here are over 200 listings in Warren MI (a middle class suburb of Detroit) with houses for sale under $200k - https://www.zillow.com/homes/Warren,-MI_rb/ https://www.zillow.com/homes/Warren,-MI_rb/. That's just one suburb, there are many others in this Metro Detroit are of 4.5 million people. Check the same thing in Metro areas surrounding Cleveland, Cincy, Indy, St Louis, Atlanta, Charlotte, Knoxville, Dallas etc etc.. People in the handful of highest priced cities are so divorced from reality it's concerning. This is a huge country with a ton of multi-million population metro areas.
Markoff 4y ago
...only if it means moving to poorer place (this needs rent/buying property regulation). The other way you would end up with rich countries (read EU for instance) collapsing under flood of economic migrants unless they would completely scratch any welfare. We see where it goes with "refugees". There is reason why economic migration should be regulated, I have no problem welcoming economic migrants who upon arrival declares he won't use and won't be eligible to any welfare in next five years, but it would still cause problems anyway with people living in ghettoes willing to lube worth much lower living standard undercutting locals from low paid jobs.

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anybody should have a right to go and live anywhere. But no one is entitled to be able to afford to live anywhere they want.

by option 4y ago

anybody should have a right to go and live anywhere. But no one is entitled to be able to afford to live anywhere they want.

solardev 4y ago
I think the problem for more and more people is that there's not many places left to live, anywhere, if you want even a lower middle class life.
- option 4y ago
  this can’t be true by definition. E.g. 80% of places can’t be in top 10% by cost of living.
  - solardev 4y ago
    It can if most of the wealth is concentrated in a tiny percentage of the population and everyone else has to share rooms...
- yucky 4y ago
  Here are over 200 listings in Warren MI (a middle class suburb of Detroit) with houses for sale under $200k - https://www.zillow.com/homes/Warren,-MI_rb/ https://www.zillow.com/homes/Warren,-MI_rb/. That's just one suburb, there are many others in this Metro Detroit are of 4.5 million people. Check the same thing in Metro areas surrounding Cleveland, Cincy, Indy, St Louis, Atlanta, Charlotte, Knoxville, Dallas etc etc.. People in the handful of highest priced cities are so divorced from reality it's concerning. This is a huge country with a ton of multi-million population metro areas.
Markoff 4y ago
...only if it means moving to poorer place (this needs rent/buying property regulation). The other way you would end up with rich countries (read EU for instance) collapsing under flood of economic migrants unless they would completely scratch any welfare. We see where it goes with "refugees". There is reason why economic migration should be regulated, I have no problem welcoming economic migrants who upon arrival declares he won't use and won't be eligible to any welfare in next five years, but it would still cause problems anyway with people living in ghettoes willing to lube worth much lower living standard undercutting locals from low paid jobs.