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A lot of instant coffee (3in1 or 2in1) these days are quite good especially from Vietnam. In Asia, these are quite commonly sold in supermarket. In western coun

A lot of instant coffee (3in1 or 2in1) these days are quite good especially from Vietnam. In Asia, these are quite commonly sold in supermarket. In western countries not so much (guess quality of living in the west are lower than Asian sides these days). Seriously speaking, non of the coffee either self-roasted or instant able to match coffee luwak. If you are coffee afficianado, luwak is a must.

newaccount2021 4y ago
ChuckNorris89 4y ago
>coffee luwak. If you are coffee afficianado, luwak is a must. Do you mean Kopi Luwak, the coffee from Indonesian civet poop? According to James Hoffmann[1], people should stop consuming that as the industry is based on animal abuse and it's nearly impossible to verify your Kopi Luwak has been gained through fair practices that haven't harmed the animals. If you are coffee aficionado then better stick to Fairtrade coffee that doesn't involve any animals. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkbuFwHnJQY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkbuFwHnJQY
- GordonS 4y ago
  I think most "kopi luwak" nowadays is produced chemically, rather that using a weasel's digestive system (OK, that's "chemically" too, but you know what I mean :) A while back I visited a kopi luwak farm in Vietnam, Hue I think it was. The animals were treated really well, but I'm sure that's not going to be the case for all these places. Anyway, kopi luwak really is amazing stuff - but at the farm I tried "weasel coffee" and "chemical coffee" side by side (the same beans, with the same grind and roast), and I couldn't tell the difference.
maccard 4y ago
> non of the coffee either self-roasted or instant able to match coffee luwak. If you are coffee afficianado, luwak is a must. If you're a coffee afficianado, watch this video [0] and don't try it. [0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=pkbuFwHnJQY https://youtube.com/watch?v=pkbuFwHnJQY
locuscoeruleus 4y ago
> If you are coffee afficianado, luwak is a must. No, it is not. If we disregard the ethical issues surrounding the coffee, this is what a renowned roaster has to say about the coffee """ Kopi Luwak. Made from poop, smells like poop and tastes like poop. A complete ripoff to buy in to… """
- ndsipa_pomu 4y ago
  Totally agree. Also, Kopi Luwak will likely by very stale indeed unless you buy it from a specialist. A much better version of poop coffee is Jacu Bird coffee. They tend to live around good quality coffee plantations and they have a discerning eye for the coffee cherries. Still more of a novelty thing though as it's so expensive. AFAIK Jacu birds aren't force-fed in captivity, so that's much better.
ndsipa_pomu 4y ago
Personally, I can't stand instant coffee and treat it as some kind of insult to decent coffee (I always choose tea in preference to instant coffee). As others have said, Kopi Luwak should be shunned for the animal cruelty involved as well as for the the excessive hype about it. I am a fan of quite a few Asian coffee beans, however. Monsooned Malabar is one of my faves as well as some strong flavoured Indonesian beans. I really enjoyed some Thai beans that I bought in a small batch although the flavour was definitely funky and not to all tastes.

newaccount2021 4y ago

ChuckNorris89 4y ago

>coffee luwak. If you are coffee afficianado, luwak is a must. Do you mean Kopi Luwak, the coffee from Indonesian civet poop? According to James Hoffmann[1], people should stop consuming that as the industry is based on animal abuse and it's nearly impossible to verify your Kopi Luwak has been gained through fair practices that haven't harmed the animals. If you are coffee aficionado then better stick to Fairtrade coffee that doesn't involve any animals. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkbuFwHnJQY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkbuFwHnJQY

GordonS 4y ago
I think most "kopi luwak" nowadays is produced chemically, rather that using a weasel's digestive system (OK, that's "chemically" too, but you know what I mean :) A while back I visited a kopi luwak farm in Vietnam, Hue I think it was. The animals were treated really well, but I'm sure that's not going to be the case for all these places. Anyway, kopi luwak really is amazing stuff - but at the farm I tried "weasel coffee" and "chemical coffee" side by side (the same beans, with the same grind and roast), and I couldn't tell the difference.

maccard 4y ago

> non of the coffee either self-roasted or instant able to match coffee luwak. If you are coffee afficianado, luwak is a must. If you're a coffee afficianado, watch this video [0] and don't try it. [0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=pkbuFwHnJQY https://youtube.com/watch?v=pkbuFwHnJQY

locuscoeruleus 4y ago

> If you are coffee afficianado, luwak is a must. No, it is not. If we disregard the ethical issues surrounding the coffee, this is what a renowned roaster has to say about the coffee """ Kopi Luwak. Made from poop, smells like poop and tastes like poop. A complete ripoff to buy in to… """

ndsipa_pomu 4y ago
Totally agree. Also, Kopi Luwak will likely by very stale indeed unless you buy it from a specialist. A much better version of poop coffee is Jacu Bird coffee. They tend to live around good quality coffee plantations and they have a discerning eye for the coffee cherries. Still more of a novelty thing though as it's so expensive. AFAIK Jacu birds aren't force-fed in captivity, so that's much better.

ndsipa_pomu 4y ago

Personally, I can't stand instant coffee and treat it as some kind of insult to decent coffee (I always choose tea in preference to instant coffee). As others have said, Kopi Luwak should be shunned for the animal cruelty involved as well as for the the excessive hype about it. I am a fan of quite a few Asian coffee beans, however. Monsooned Malabar is one of my faves as well as some strong flavoured Indonesian beans. I really enjoyed some Thai beans that I bought in a small batch although the flavour was definitely funky and not to all tastes.