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"Wayland devs" absolutely don't care if you switch or not. I don't get where this entitlement is coming from.

MichaelCollins 4y ago
I feel no entitlement, I'm happy with what I'm using already. I do however perceive a vague desire from Wayland advocates / developers that I stop using what I like and get with their program. But I won't until it works better for me. If you don't care what I use, then my above comment shouldn't upset you. I'm merely describing why I continue to happily use what I use.
jasonlotito 4y ago
There is no entitlement. There was a question on a topic, and someone shared their opinion on this topic. It was cleanly focused on what it would take for them to adopt Wayland, and answering the question from a personal point of view. This is what generally happens on discussion boards like HN. This will happen a lot here. > "Wayland devs" absolutely don't care if you switch or not Citation please showing that "Wayland devs" do not care about why people aren't using Wayland and do not find people posting issues with their pains in adopting Wayland helpful in any way.
- 5e92cb50239222b 4y ago
  I like this take: https://drewdevault.com/2021/02/02/Anti-Wayland-horseshit.html https://drewdevault.com/2021/02/02/Anti-Wayland-horseshit.ht... It shows pretty clearly what these "discussions" did to at least one maintainer of a compositor I've spent thousands of hours in front of. Thanks for burning him, I guess. When I recount difficulties with any FOSS application, I try to be very humble, always remembering the immeasurable amount of work put in by developers to give me this thing for free. Somehow you don't see a lot of this in these Wayland threads. A commenter waltzes in, leaves a classic screed ("you won't see my business unless this XYZ thing works!"), and marches out. Leaving no word of thanks for work that has already been done, not throwing a couple of bucks for a coffee. Maybe it's a cultural difference, I don't know. Seems very entitled to me.
  - MichaelCollins 4y ago
    All of my communications with Drew in the past have been amicable, although we never discussed Wayland specifically. I don't know who burned him out but it wasn't me, so you're barking up the wrong tree.

I feel no entitlement, I'm happy with what I'm using already. I do however perceive a vague desire from Wayland advocates / developers that I stop using what I like and get with their program. But I won't until it works better for me. If you don't care what I use, then my above comment shouldn't upset you. I'm merely describing why I continue to happily use what I use.

jasonlotito 4y ago

There is no entitlement. There was a question on a topic, and someone shared their opinion on this topic. It was cleanly focused on what it would take for them to adopt Wayland, and answering the question from a personal point of view. This is what generally happens on discussion boards like HN. This will happen a lot here. > "Wayland devs" absolutely don't care if you switch or not Citation please showing that "Wayland devs" do not care about why people aren't using Wayland and do not find people posting issues with their pains in adopting Wayland helpful in any way.

5e92cb50239222b 4y ago
I like this take: https://drewdevault.com/2021/02/02/Anti-Wayland-horseshit.html https://drewdevault.com/2021/02/02/Anti-Wayland-horseshit.ht... It shows pretty clearly what these "discussions" did to at least one maintainer of a compositor I've spent thousands of hours in front of. Thanks for burning him, I guess. When I recount difficulties with any FOSS application, I try to be very humble, always remembering the immeasurable amount of work put in by developers to give me this thing for free. Somehow you don't see a lot of this in these Wayland threads. A commenter waltzes in, leaves a classic screed ("you won't see my business unless this XYZ thing works!"), and marches out. Leaving no word of thanks for work that has already been done, not throwing a couple of bucks for a coffee. Maybe it's a cultural difference, I don't know. Seems very entitled to me.
- MichaelCollins 4y ago
  All of my communications with Drew in the past have been amicable, although we never discussed Wayland specifically. I don't know who burned him out but it wasn't me, so you're barking up the wrong tree.