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Who is going to force them? They are based in Sweden.

mmh0000 4y ago
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MichaelCollins 4y ago
Swedish authorities have violated their own laws at the behest of American spy agencies before. If it happened before it could happen again. And now Sweden is in NATO, so their relationship with American spy agencies is likely more intimate than ever before. > On December 18, 2001, 45-year-old Ahmed Agiza was secretly apprehended in Sweden by Swedish Security Police. Agiza was then handed over to agents of the U.S. CIA, who stripped him, dressed him in overalls and chained and shackled him before transporting him in a Gulfstream V aircraft to Egypt, where he was severely tortured. At the time of his unlawful rendition, Agiza, an Egyptian citizen, was living in Sweden with his wife and five young children, waiting for a determination on their political asylum application. https://www.aclu.org/bio/ahmed-agiza https://www.aclu.org/bio/ahmed-agiza
- eCa 4y ago
  > And now Sweden is in NATO No, not yet. But they have (and have had) significant co-operations for many years.
zx8080 4y ago
Well, Sweden has its own DPA law (see IMY) which prevails over GDPR. Also, according to the recent decision (see [0] and its references for details), user is not considered as party to their own privacy rights. I can only add that in Sweden at least some important personal information is not protected at all. It's given by the government for free and can be used by anyone [1]. Like all details on any person income, taxes paid, phone number, address and birth date [2]. Nice regulations, isn't it? I'm really not sure if I want to use VPN or any other service based in Sweden. [0] - https://noyb.eu/en/sweden-users-are-not-party-their-own-privacy-rights https://noyb.eu/en/sweden-users-are-not-party-their-own-priv... [1] - https://alex-paiusco.medium.com/sweden-the-country-where-all-your-personal-data-are-online-and-what-you-can-do-about-it-8e8cf39ed3c7 https://alex-paiusco.medium.com/sweden-the-country-where-all... [2] - https://hitta.se https://hitta.se
x86_64Ubuntu 4y ago
I don't think any Western entity is beyond the reach of the US intelligence apparatus. If the US isn't pressing these countries to hand over data on a person, it means that the US isn't interested in disappearing that person. Throughout the War On Terror, time and time again we've seen these European countries cooperate in one way or another.
- refurb 4y ago
  It doesn’t have to be the US. You think if France thinks a terror attack is planned using Swedish technology, Sweden won’t help with intelligence?

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MichaelCollins 4y ago

Swedish authorities have violated their own laws at the behest of American spy agencies before. If it happened before it could happen again. And now Sweden is in NATO, so their relationship with American spy agencies is likely more intimate than ever before. > On December 18, 2001, 45-year-old Ahmed Agiza was secretly apprehended in Sweden by Swedish Security Police. Agiza was then handed over to agents of the U.S. CIA, who stripped him, dressed him in overalls and chained and shackled him before transporting him in a Gulfstream V aircraft to Egypt, where he was severely tortured. At the time of his unlawful rendition, Agiza, an Egyptian citizen, was living in Sweden with his wife and five young children, waiting for a determination on their political asylum application. https://www.aclu.org/bio/ahmed-agiza https://www.aclu.org/bio/ahmed-agiza

eCa 4y ago
> And now Sweden is in NATO No, not yet. But they have (and have had) significant co-operations for many years.

zx8080 4y ago

Well, Sweden has its own DPA law (see IMY) which prevails over GDPR. Also, according to the recent decision (see [0] and its references for details), user is not considered as party to their own privacy rights. I can only add that in Sweden at least some important personal information is not protected at all. It's given by the government for free and can be used by anyone [1]. Like all details on any person income, taxes paid, phone number, address and birth date [2]. Nice regulations, isn't it? I'm really not sure if I want to use VPN or any other service based in Sweden. [0] - https://noyb.eu/en/sweden-users-are-not-party-their-own-privacy-rights https://noyb.eu/en/sweden-users-are-not-party-their-own-priv... [1] - https://alex-paiusco.medium.com/sweden-the-country-where-all-your-personal-data-are-online-and-what-you-can-do-about-it-8e8cf39ed3c7 https://alex-paiusco.medium.com/sweden-the-country-where-all... [2] - https://hitta.se https://hitta.se

x86_64Ubuntu 4y ago

I don't think any Western entity is beyond the reach of the US intelligence apparatus. If the US isn't pressing these countries to hand over data on a person, it means that the US isn't interested in disappearing that person. Throughout the War On Terror, time and time again we've seen these European countries cooperate in one way or another.

refurb 4y ago
It doesn’t have to be the US. You think if France thinks a terror attack is planned using Swedish technology, Sweden won’t help with intelligence?