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So don't subscribe to them.

by erfgh 4y ago

Renaud 4y ago
You usually don’t know the pain until you try it. The immense majority of subscription services go to great lengths to make it as easy as possible to get you on and too many go to great length to make it very hard to let you stop. We are at the point where I believe there should be regulations that forces a company to make it as easy to stop as it is to join.
xg15 4y ago
But the whole point of this thread is that everything is moving to subscriptions. So... dont use any service ever then I guess?
- prmoustache 4y ago
  That is untrue. Also you named it: service. Not everything is a service, and not all services are required. While you can't easily avoid insurances, bankings, healthcare, internet/mobile provider you can easily avoid spotify, office365, netflix, evernote or telegram or a gym subscription.
  - xg15 4y ago
    Yeah, and technically, I don't need housing either, I can just live on the street. > telegram Not if important contacts are on there. The point is, there is a clear trend. Various things we traditionally saw as "products" already morphed into services and I don't see any indication this will reverse in the near future. On the contrary, with more devices becoming connected, the trend will likely increasingly include physical devices. See BMW's experiments with requiring subscriptions to use hardware you already own. See also the whole John Deere debate from a few years ago. Etc. So while not technically impossible, it will become increasingly harder to not use services.
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johannes1234321 4y ago
You can see the unsubscription flow only after subscribing. Thus you can't make your buying decision based on it.
- prmoustache 4y ago
  You usually can with a bit of research or asking for it. You are however not certain it won't change.
  - ClumsyPilot 4y ago
    You cannot get this information fron the business offering you the subscribtion, and its not in the contract, therefore it basicslly doesn't exist. You can't rely on information from 3rd parties - those parties are under no obligation to tell you the truth, could be wrong or out of date
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So don't subscribe to them.

by erfgh 4y ago

So don't subscribe to them.

You usually don’t know the pain until you try it. The immense majority of subscription services go to great lengths to make it as easy as possible to get you on and too many go to great length to make it very hard to let you stop. We are at the point where I believe there should be regulations that forces a company to make it as easy to stop as it is to join.

xg15 4y ago

But the whole point of this thread is that everything is moving to subscriptions. So... dont use any service ever then I guess?

prmoustache 4y ago
That is untrue. Also you named it: service. Not everything is a service, and not all services are required. While you can't easily avoid insurances, bankings, healthcare, internet/mobile provider you can easily avoid spotify, office365, netflix, evernote or telegram or a gym subscription.
- xg15 4y ago
  Yeah, and technically, I don't need housing either, I can just live on the street. > telegram Not if important contacts are on there. The point is, there is a clear trend. Various things we traditionally saw as "products" already morphed into services and I don't see any indication this will reverse in the near future. On the contrary, with more devices becoming connected, the trend will likely increasingly include physical devices. See BMW's experiments with requiring subscriptions to use hardware you already own. See also the whole John Deere debate from a few years ago. Etc. So while not technically impossible, it will become increasingly harder to not use services.
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johannes1234321 4y ago

You can see the unsubscription flow only after subscribing. Thus you can't make your buying decision based on it.

prmoustache 4y ago
You usually can with a bit of research or asking for it. You are however not certain it won't change.
- ClumsyPilot 4y ago
  You cannot get this information fron the business offering you the subscribtion, and its not in the contract, therefore it basicslly doesn't exist. You can't rely on information from 3rd parties - those parties are under no obligation to tell you the truth, could be wrong or out of date

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