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Just to play devil's advocate, what about situations where someone's freedom to use software encroaches on others? For example, what if a user uses those freedo
by morbia 4y ago
Just to play devil's advocate, what about situations where someone's freedom to use software encroaches on others? For example, what if a user uses those freedoms to install malware that adds their machine to a botnet?
- BenjiWiebe 4y agoSame as freedom to put poison in your own food vs poison in someone else's food. They're different things.
- userbinator 4y agoEverything you do in this world "enroaches on others" to some extent. One of the core tenets of freedom, at least in the West, is that we need to allow a certain amount of that and consider the fact that people will not always do what you want as a necessary condition for freedom to exist.
- morbia 4y agoYes exactly, the point I guess I was arguing with is how you define 'a certain amount' of freedom. Freedom is clearly not absolute in the real world so why should it be absolute in the digital one? Particularly when the overwhelming majority of 'normal' people do not care about the basics of digital hygiene and security. There was a time I had a very Stallman view on software. Now I think my views are that having closed source devices, where security is managed by 'trusted' third parties, is absolutely fine for people who don't care. However, there should always be a choice for those who do want to exercise their freedom, and typically those who care about their digital freedoms will be technical enough to manage their devices responsibly. Clearly though in the mobile market in particular we're very far away from realising this.
- josephcsible 4y agoConsider that it's illegal to drive a car without working headlights or taillights, but cars aren't required to disable themselves if they detect a lightbulb is burned out.
- morbia 4y agoI'm not sure I understand your analogy. My thoughts were along the lines of users unintentionally installing malware which inflicts harm onto others, or say refusing to install software updates 'because it works' which in turn puts others at risk. But to use that car analogy, in my country it is a legal requirement to have your car undergo a safety check every year for cars older than a certain age. That is very analogous to installing software updates in my opinion, and yet we don't enforce legal requirements to install updates on personal devices.
- josephcsible 4y agoI guess my point is that if you want to break the law, things that you own shouldn't prevent you from doing so.