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> that they're disinterested in starting shit and are just out there hanging out and running a business, you treat them like any other salesman hawking his ware

by pm90 4y ago

> that they're disinterested in starting shit and are just out there hanging out and running a business, you treat them like any other salesman hawking his wares. I wish i could share this with more folks. The idea that these people are somehow hardened criminals that will knife anyone is such bullshit. They just want to be left alone for the most part.

deepdriver 4y ago
The dealers may be more-or-less rational economic actors. Their customers are not. Yes, some will knife you. https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/man-dead-after-tenderloin-stabbing/ https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/man-dead-after-tenderloi... https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/4-stabbed-in-tenderloin-stabbing-spree/ https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/4-stabbed-in-tenderloin-... https://www.kron4.com/news/sf-man-stabbed-in-tenderloin-in-critical-condition/ https://www.kron4.com/news/sf-man-stabbed-in-tenderloin-in-c...
- simoncion 4y ago
  Sometimes people will use a knife against other people, yes. Those articles you linked to provide no evidence to believe that the reported stabber is a customer of a Tenderloin dealer.
inferiorhuman 4y ago
Agreed. The TL is mostly drug dealers and drug users and is for the most part not as unsafe as the pearl clutchers would have you believe. I've worked in neighborhoods where the indigent folks tend to be more outwardly mentally ill and that was far more hair raising on a day to day.
simoncion 4y ago
Man, the drive-by downvotes are weird. I can't remember if the site settled on (officially or otherwise) a "Downvotes indicate disagreement" or a "Downvotes indicate violation of site rules and regulations" policy, but if they settled on the former, that's quite a shame. Some of the most interesting and informative conversations I've ever had have been with people who held opinions that were as opposed to mine as they could possibly get. And -in truth- the core of your comment (Folks just want to get on with their lives.) is broadly applicable to _most_ big boogeymen... child snatchers, street thugs, terrorists (domestic or otherwise), etc, etc, etc. In the overwhelming majority of cases, folks simply don't want to start shit, and -when made by Officials- claims to the contrary are nearly always attempts to increase the power and/or wealth of that official and/or their cronies.

by pm90 4y ago

deepdriver 4y ago

The dealers may be more-or-less rational economic actors. Their customers are not. Yes, some will knife you. https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/man-dead-after-tenderloin-stabbing/ https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/man-dead-after-tenderloi... https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/4-stabbed-in-tenderloin-stabbing-spree/ https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/4-stabbed-in-tenderloin-... https://www.kron4.com/news/sf-man-stabbed-in-tenderloin-in-critical-condition/ https://www.kron4.com/news/sf-man-stabbed-in-tenderloin-in-c...

simoncion 4y ago
Sometimes people will use a knife against other people, yes. Those articles you linked to provide no evidence to believe that the reported stabber is a customer of a Tenderloin dealer.

inferiorhuman 4y ago

Agreed. The TL is mostly drug dealers and drug users and is for the most part not as unsafe as the pearl clutchers would have you believe. I've worked in neighborhoods where the indigent folks tend to be more outwardly mentally ill and that was far more hair raising on a day to day.

simoncion 4y ago

Man, the drive-by downvotes are weird. I can't remember if the site settled on (officially or otherwise) a "Downvotes indicate disagreement" or a "Downvotes indicate violation of site rules and regulations" policy, but if they settled on the former, that's quite a shame. Some of the most interesting and informative conversations I've ever had have been with people who held opinions that were as opposed to mine as they could possibly get. And -in truth- the core of your comment (Folks just want to get on with their lives.) is broadly applicable to _most_ big boogeymen... child snatchers, street thugs, terrorists (domestic or otherwise), etc, etc, etc. In the overwhelming majority of cases, folks simply don't want to start shit, and -when made by Officials- claims to the contrary are nearly always attempts to increase the power and/or wealth of that official and/or their cronies.