Having an effect on the future is not a simple thing. With experience you get some idea about what it takes, how much time, how many ppl will be required, what

Having an effect on the future is not a simple thing. With experience you get some idea about what it takes, how much time, how many ppl will be required, what personality types etc to push groups in different directions. But if you haven't built up that experience then chances are high, you will fail to influence outcomes no matter what you do. So the question becomes - how do you build up that experience? If I respect/trust the leaders I usually tell them I disagree but will do things their way. Its then their call whether they want me on the team or not. If I don't trust the leaders, but think the group has good people I can learn a lot from, I put off bringing anything up for some fixed time (3 months/6 month etc). If things have gotten worse by then I am ready to bring it up/take what I have learnt and check out if it comes to it.