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You really think this is the government looking out for you? Sounds to me like they are working towards Chinese style 'comply with the government or GTFO' for a

by sk0g 4y ago

You really think this is the government looking out for you? Sounds to me like they are working towards Chinese style 'comply with the government or GTFO' for all outside businesses. Except the Indonesian market is much smaller than China, so there's not as much leverage as China does get. Though I'll give you one thing, I had to figure out microservices at a previous job because the regulation on Indonesian data was much more intense than usual. Had to keep the data in the country, as well as only process it in-country. The net effect was that the data went not just to the US (main cloud co), but also to China (AliCloud)... Not sure if that was a net benefit, didn't feel that way to me.

csomar 4y ago
The number of registered services here disagree: https://kominfod.angelo.fyi https://kominfod.angelo.fyi I'm actually surprised that many companies did comply...
- sk0g 4y ago
  What is there to disagree? Companies did sign up with Chinese shells etc too, but staying there is tricky as well. This just shows they are happy enough to provide yet another government with a backdoor to your data. I'm not surprised, but disappointed for sure. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/02/indonesias-proposed-online-intermediary-regulation-may-be-most-repressive-yet https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/02/indonesias-proposed-on...
- pessimizer 4y ago
  The total number of non-Indonesian sites that registered was 282 according to this press release. Which means that every site in the world outside of Indonesia will be banned inside Indonesia (or every "platform" which probably includes every blog that takes comments) except for 282 sites, most of which seem to provide crucial infrastructure to websites in general i.e. Indonesian sites require them to operate.
  - duskwuff 4y ago
    Realistically, it's a lot less than 282 sites. There are a lot of mobile apps (mostly games, registered under Play Store URLs), and a lot of duplicates. There's almost nothing on the list that looks like infrastructure, TBH.

by sk0g 4y ago

csomar 4y ago

The number of registered services here disagree: https://kominfod.angelo.fyi https://kominfod.angelo.fyi I'm actually surprised that many companies did comply...

sk0g 4y ago
What is there to disagree? Companies did sign up with Chinese shells etc too, but staying there is tricky as well. This just shows they are happy enough to provide yet another government with a backdoor to your data. I'm not surprised, but disappointed for sure. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/02/indonesias-proposed-online-intermediary-regulation-may-be-most-repressive-yet https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/02/indonesias-proposed-on...
pessimizer 4y ago
The total number of non-Indonesian sites that registered was 282 according to this press release. Which means that every site in the world outside of Indonesia will be banned inside Indonesia (or every "platform" which probably includes every blog that takes comments) except for 282 sites, most of which seem to provide crucial infrastructure to websites in general i.e. Indonesian sites require them to operate.
- duskwuff 4y ago
  Realistically, it's a lot less than 282 sites. There are a lot of mobile apps (mostly games, registered under Play Store URLs), and a lot of duplicates. There's almost nothing on the list that looks like infrastructure, TBH.