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It really bothers me that people seem to think that flash works well on windows. And that's even before taking into account that flash is a gigantic security h

by tjoff 15y ago

It really bothers me that people seem to think that flash works well on windows. And that's even before taking into account that flash is a gigantic security hole (on all platforms) and that adobe still can not, after all these years of misery, push updates well (to windows clients at least). Google did the world a huge favor by developing Chrome and thus make it so blatantly obvious what crap flash really is (putting the blame where it belongs as they so delicately put it). It's become much better the last year but some things you just can't rescue and it should be banned from use just for security reasons anyway.

protomyth 15y ago
Well, its a sliding scale really. It works so awful os OS X that, by comparison, it is much nicer on Windows.
masklinn 15y ago
> It really bothers me that people seem to think that flash works well on windows. It pretty much works (at all), which is a far cry from the experience on OSX and Linux both. And that's not limited to plugin either, during the holiday I've been out with only a macbook. Wanted to play Binding of Isaac, which is in Flash and cross-platform. Performances on my Win7 machine are good, especially in fullscreen (there are some slowdowns when windowed). On OSX it was absolutely dreadful, any time half a dozen missiles were on the screen the game would just crawl down to single-digit FPS. I was not able to play any Binding during the holiday, it was just too horrible.
aniket_ray 15y ago
Disclaimer: Ex-Adober/Ex-Flash platform developer On many fronts including security, I think Adobe lost a marketing battle to Apple. Nothing to be proud of but for the last couple of years, Apple products have had as many security vulnerabilities as Adobe products, if not more. Adobe still gets much more flak owing to their ubiquitous nature (maybe they should). On the other hand, the market treats Apple like a security expert's dream (which it is not).

by tjoff 15y ago

protomyth 15y ago

Well, its a sliding scale really. It works so awful os OS X that, by comparison, it is much nicer on Windows.

masklinn 15y ago

> It really bothers me that people seem to think that flash works well on windows. It pretty much works (at all), which is a far cry from the experience on OSX and Linux both. And that's not limited to plugin either, during the holiday I've been out with only a macbook. Wanted to play Binding of Isaac, which is in Flash and cross-platform. Performances on my Win7 machine are good, especially in fullscreen (there are some slowdowns when windowed). On OSX it was absolutely dreadful, any time half a dozen missiles were on the screen the game would just crawl down to single-digit FPS. I was not able to play any Binding during the holiday, it was just too horrible.

aniket_ray 15y ago

Disclaimer: Ex-Adober/Ex-Flash platform developer On many fronts including security, I think Adobe lost a marketing battle to Apple. Nothing to be proud of but for the last couple of years, Apple products have had as many security vulnerabilities as Adobe products, if not more. Adobe still gets much more flak owing to their ubiquitous nature (maybe they should). On the other hand, the market treats Apple like a security expert's dream (which it is not).