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Well, then, thank god for Apple for rescuing us from the tyranny of flash. Now, if we could just get rid of it on the desktop, things might be much better. CBS

by nirvana 15y ago

Well, then, thank god for Apple for rescuing us from the tyranny of flash. Now, if we could just get rid of it on the desktop, things might be much better. CBS.com, I'm looking at you. Hulu, you can do better also. Once again, by the way, despite the cacophony of personal attacks that it produced at the time, Steve Jobs has been proven right.

tborthwick 15y ago
He wasn't proven 'right' as much as 'successful'. He wanted to keep flash off the iPhone and iPad and he succeeded. Just because Adobe, faced with a ban on the most important mobile platform, decided mobile flash wasn't worth the development effort doesn't mean that they couldn't have created a viable player on iOS. With enough money and the improving hardware of devices, they almost certainly could have. But even then they'd be left with the fact that native apps are succeeding far better than web apps on mobile devices anyway.
- wmf 15y ago
  The AIR runtime is basically Flash Player and it's allowed on iOS — it sucks. Adobe also spent years on Flash Player for Android and it's not that great.
  - sjs 15y ago
    s/not that great/barely works and slows web pages to a crawl/
  - joshu 15y ago
    What? I don't think air runs on iOS.
    - wmf 15y ago
      http://www.adobe.com/devnet/air/air_for_ios.html http://www.adobe.com/devnet/air/air_for_ios.html
- sjs 15y ago
  > ban As if Adobe has some right granted by the deities to have their precious plugin on every platform under the sun. And as if Apple singled out Adobe (there are no plugins on iOS). If the iPhone was a flop Adobe wouldn't have cared about being on iOS, just like they never cared about being on Linux even when users were begging for it. Adobe has displayed nothing but contempt for non-Windows platforms and they only started whining because iOS was successful. Where's the fuss over being "banned" on Windows Phone 7? If Adobe is capable of delivering a good runtime for ARM platforms then where is it? They had time, more than enough time.

by nirvana 15y ago

tborthwick 15y ago

He wasn't proven 'right' as much as 'successful'. He wanted to keep flash off the iPhone and iPad and he succeeded. Just because Adobe, faced with a ban on the most important mobile platform, decided mobile flash wasn't worth the development effort doesn't mean that they couldn't have created a viable player on iOS. With enough money and the improving hardware of devices, they almost certainly could have. But even then they'd be left with the fact that native apps are succeeding far better than web apps on mobile devices anyway.

wmf 15y ago
The AIR runtime is basically Flash Player and it's allowed on iOS — it sucks. Adobe also spent years on Flash Player for Android and it's not that great.
- sjs 15y ago
  s/not that great/barely works and slows web pages to a crawl/
- joshu 15y ago
  What? I don't think air runs on iOS.
  - wmf 15y ago
    http://www.adobe.com/devnet/air/air_for_ios.html http://www.adobe.com/devnet/air/air_for_ios.html
sjs 15y ago
> ban As if Adobe has some right granted by the deities to have their precious plugin on every platform under the sun. And as if Apple singled out Adobe (there are no plugins on iOS). If the iPhone was a flop Adobe wouldn't have cared about being on iOS, just like they never cared about being on Linux even when users were begging for it. Adobe has displayed nothing but contempt for non-Windows platforms and they only started whining because iOS was successful. Where's the fuss over being "banned" on Windows Phone 7? If Adobe is capable of delivering a good runtime for ARM platforms then where is it? They had time, more than enough time.