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BC in the 80s, 90s seemed like completely different worlds compared to today. Vancouver especially seemed to have peaked early 2000s before the housing bubble t

BC in the 80s, 90s seemed like completely different worlds compared to today. Vancouver especially seemed to have peaked early 2000s before the housing bubble took off. Rainforest Cafe, Playdium, Indy 500, Vancouver Grizzlies, Canucks. It had so much going for it. What was once a fun, soulful city is now something completely different.

RC_ITR 4y ago
Excuse my ignorance, but do you mean something more than there being a rainforest cafe there? Semi-tangential: you’ll probably enjoy this video: https://youtu.be/vA-bjpKvIw8 https://youtu.be/vA-bjpKvIw8 His mate made a similar video with a more positive tone, but this one struck me as funnier.
ilrwbwrkhv 4y ago
I think Canada as a whole peaked in the early 2000s.
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cgh 4y ago
The Achilles heel of Vancouver was the insane liquor licensing, which lead to the moniker of "No Fun City". That's what you get when your city is founded by a bunch of Scottish Calvinists. But otherwise, I have great memories of my early 20s seeing bands at the Niagara Hotel and hanging out three nights a week at the Ivanhoe while paying $500 a month for a decent studio in the West End. Commercial Drive was in full swing as a sort of '90s Haight-Ashbury. Now all those places are gone and the city feels sleek and generic, like a cut-rate Hong Kong.
- jabbany 4y ago
  > sleek and generic > Hong Kong Idk, but I would not call Hong Kong sleek and generic... If anything it's kind of the opposite.
  - cgh 4y ago
    I was speaking mostly of the financial district and all the glass and steel. But yeah, maybe not the greatest comparison.
dleslie 4y ago
BC was altered considerably by a series of economic crisis in the 90s; notably the softwood lumber dispute, the opening of raw log exports, the salmon fishery dispute, and the asian economic crisis. All told, they had the cumulative effect of shifting BC's economy away from lumber and fisheries and toward tourism and real estate.
- moistly 4y ago
  The criminal government from 2001- 2017 did not help matters. Money laundering so extensive that it begot its own name (the “Vancouver Model”). It completely fucked the housing market.
  - dleslie 4y ago
    The current government's investigation found no sign of criminal collusion at the government level. It also found that money laundering had barely any influence on housing prices. At worst, the Liberals were just inept.
    - moistly 4y ago
      Wilful Blindness by Sam Cooper provides endless evidence that the government is corrupted. “We investigated ourselves and found that we are not corrupt” is not a ringing endorsement. Money is power and in BC the criminal GDP is as valuable as any of our legitimate business sectors, like fishing or forestry. https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/douglas-todd-sam-coopers-expose-of-corruption-in-canada-tops-bestseller-list https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/douglas-todd-sam... https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2017/04/10/BC-Liberal-Falsehoods-Scandals-Whole-List/ https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2017/04/10/BC-Liberal-Falsehoods-...
      - dleslie 4y ago
        It was an NDP-Government led investigation; so it wasn't a case of the accused investigating themselves. If anything, the NDP had incentive to discover malfeasance. Maybe Eby didn't read Cooper's book.

RC_ITR 4y ago

Excuse my ignorance, but do you mean something more than there being a rainforest cafe there? Semi-tangential: you’ll probably enjoy this video: https://youtu.be/vA-bjpKvIw8 https://youtu.be/vA-bjpKvIw8 His mate made a similar video with a more positive tone, but this one struck me as funnier.

ilrwbwrkhv 4y ago

I think Canada as a whole peaked in the early 2000s.

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cgh 4y ago

The Achilles heel of Vancouver was the insane liquor licensing, which lead to the moniker of "No Fun City". That's what you get when your city is founded by a bunch of Scottish Calvinists. But otherwise, I have great memories of my early 20s seeing bands at the Niagara Hotel and hanging out three nights a week at the Ivanhoe while paying $500 a month for a decent studio in the West End. Commercial Drive was in full swing as a sort of '90s Haight-Ashbury. Now all those places are gone and the city feels sleek and generic, like a cut-rate Hong Kong.

jabbany 4y ago
> sleek and generic > Hong Kong Idk, but I would not call Hong Kong sleek and generic... If anything it's kind of the opposite.
- cgh 4y ago
  I was speaking mostly of the financial district and all the glass and steel. But yeah, maybe not the greatest comparison.

dleslie 4y ago

BC was altered considerably by a series of economic crisis in the 90s; notably the softwood lumber dispute, the opening of raw log exports, the salmon fishery dispute, and the asian economic crisis. All told, they had the cumulative effect of shifting BC's economy away from lumber and fisheries and toward tourism and real estate.

moistly 4y ago
The criminal government from 2001- 2017 did not help matters. Money laundering so extensive that it begot its own name (the “Vancouver Model”). It completely fucked the housing market.
- dleslie 4y ago
  The current government's investigation found no sign of criminal collusion at the government level. It also found that money laundering had barely any influence on housing prices. At worst, the Liberals were just inept.
  - moistly 4y ago
    Wilful Blindness by Sam Cooper provides endless evidence that the government is corrupted. “We investigated ourselves and found that we are not corrupt” is not a ringing endorsement. Money is power and in BC the criminal GDP is as valuable as any of our legitimate business sectors, like fishing or forestry. https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/douglas-todd-sam-coopers-expose-of-corruption-in-canada-tops-bestseller-list https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/douglas-todd-sam... https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2017/04/10/BC-Liberal-Falsehoods-Scandals-Whole-List/ https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2017/04/10/BC-Liberal-Falsehoods-...
    - dleslie 4y ago
      It was an NDP-Government led investigation; so it wasn't a case of the accused investigating themselves. If anything, the NDP had incentive to discover malfeasance. Maybe Eby didn't read Cooper's book.