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Nowadays design language of your framework should look at least not worse than Material Design 3 or Twitter Bootstrap (just because they are there and you can l

Nowadays design language of your framework should look at least not worse than Material Design 3 or Twitter Bootstrap (just because they are there and you can learn from them). This project needs some more effort to achieve it, right now it looks like it was designed 5 years ago.

Nextgrid 4y ago
What problems do you see? Personally I like it and "not looking like Material Design" is something I'd consider a feature.
- EugeneOZ 4y ago
  I expressed what problems I see - their design looks outdated and doesn't even take into account devices with “tap” screens (elements are too small, tables are not responsive). You misunderstood me: I wasn't saying that their design should look like Material Design 3. I said it should look better and take into account all the lessons we learned from Twitter Bootstrap, Material Design, and other sources. Otherwise, there are no reasons to use it.
  - dmitriid 4y ago
    > their design looks outdated Define "outdated". It looks similar to literally any other modern UI framework with the exception that it focuses on dashboard/backoffice functionality (almost none of the UI frameworks do) > doesn't even take into account devices with “tap” screens (elements are too small, tables are not responsive). Yes, that is maybe a problem. Depending on what exactly you need. I've yet to see a single UI framework that offers both a consistent set of good dashboard/backoffice elements and a good mobile experience (because it's actually hard to do). And Material is emphatically not a good example.
  - barnabee 4y ago
    Material Design looks awful to me. I quite like this. The elements in the demo are also definitely not too small for my taste. On my iPhone 13 Pro I actually think the demo looks best at 85% and it is still perfectly usable at that zoom level on a touchscreen. Everything is too damn big on mobile sites, which is ludicrous considering the tiny screens.
maxloh 4y ago
Bootstrap looks ugly to me, compared to other design systems like Microsoft's Fluent Design System or IBM's Carbon Design System.
- EugeneOZ 4y ago
  Yeah, nowadays Bootstrap looks outdated a bit, agree.

Nextgrid 4y ago

What problems do you see? Personally I like it and "not looking like Material Design" is something I'd consider a feature.

EugeneOZ 4y ago
I expressed what problems I see - their design looks outdated and doesn't even take into account devices with “tap” screens (elements are too small, tables are not responsive). You misunderstood me: I wasn't saying that their design should look like Material Design 3. I said it should look better and take into account all the lessons we learned from Twitter Bootstrap, Material Design, and other sources. Otherwise, there are no reasons to use it.
- dmitriid 4y ago
  > their design looks outdated Define "outdated". It looks similar to literally any other modern UI framework with the exception that it focuses on dashboard/backoffice functionality (almost none of the UI frameworks do) > doesn't even take into account devices with “tap” screens (elements are too small, tables are not responsive). Yes, that is maybe a problem. Depending on what exactly you need. I've yet to see a single UI framework that offers both a consistent set of good dashboard/backoffice elements and a good mobile experience (because it's actually hard to do). And Material is emphatically not a good example.
- barnabee 4y ago
  Material Design looks awful to me. I quite like this. The elements in the demo are also definitely not too small for my taste. On my iPhone 13 Pro I actually think the demo looks best at 85% and it is still perfectly usable at that zoom level on a touchscreen. Everything is too damn big on mobile sites, which is ludicrous considering the tiny screens.

maxloh 4y ago

Bootstrap looks ugly to me, compared to other design systems like Microsoft's Fluent Design System or IBM's Carbon Design System.

EugeneOZ 4y ago
Yeah, nowadays Bootstrap looks outdated a bit, agree.