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“I wouldn’t want to be a Russian tank, if it was even working in the first place.” I don’t understand one sided barbs in pieces trying to appear like unbiased

“I wouldn’t want to be a Russian tank, if it was even working in the first place.” I don’t understand one sided barbs in pieces trying to appear like unbiased analysis. Denying reality does nobody any good. In fact, denying Russias continuing victory only helps them, as people rest on their laurels.

happyopossum 4y ago
> Denying reality does nobody any good. True, so why deny the reality that Russian tanks have proven to be horribly unreliable?
- imwillofficial 4y ago
  Hardly, info from the front outside of Twitter propaganda channels has shown otherwise. You don’t get 20% of a large country without reliable armor. Fact.
  - _kbh_ 4y ago
    Russia didn't even maintain the tires on their supply trucks properly, leading to a lot of breakdowns from sun damage, and you think they have good maintenance on their tanks?. They have undoubtably got working tanks, but I think the quality and maintenance of those tanks is what remains to be seen.
    - imwillofficial 4y ago
      Where did you get this info? I feel like people are just pulling stuff out of their ass now. Russia is a near peer, of course they maintained everything. They have been preparing for this since 2012. Pretending our adversaries are magically incompetent does NOTHING for us except make us complacent. Use. Your. Brain. Do you really think any modern military isn’t maintaining the tires on they transport vehicle? Does that make any sense whatsoever?
      - _kbh_ 4y ago
        > Where did you get this info? Here's a very long twitter thread detailing all of it with photos. https://twitter.com/trenttelenko/status/1499164245250002944 https://twitter.com/trenttelenko/status/1499164245250002944 > I feel like people are just pulling stuff out of their ass now. I feel like you are underestimating just how corrupt Russia is > Russia is a near peer, of course they maintained everything. They have been preparing for this since 2012. Russia is no where near, a near peer to the USA. Every thought it was then it failed to take a city that was within ~300km of its borders. > Pretending our adversaries are magically incompetent does NOTHING for us except make us complacent. It's not pretend, they are just really bad at war. > Do you really think any modern military isn’t maintaining the tires on they transport vehicle? Does that make any sense whatsoever? Do you really think that the Russians are a near peer to the USA?.
signatoremo 4y ago
Russia isn’t winning. It’s essentially a stalemate at this point. Russia “paused” and “restarted” the war to shore up their force. Paywalled, but still: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/07/28/ukraine-russia-war-himars-missiles/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/07/28/ukraine-russ...
- jeffreyrogers 4y ago
  Aren't they occupying something like 20% of the country? Maybe they're overextended and will lose eventually, but sure seems like they're winning at the moment.
  - bshipp 4y ago
    Russia is occupying a sizable portion of the country, but to do so has expended vast quantities of stockpiled munitions and manpower. Ukraine as well, but they have undertaken mass mobilization and have the West supporting them re-arm. Russia has no such replacement capacity. Given the dramatic military strength differential between Russia and the Ukraine, the fact they are at a stalemate is, itself, a huge victory for Ukraine and a crippling defeat for Russia.
    - jeffreyrogers 4y ago
      We'll see. I'm not as optimistic as you. Russia hasn't mobilized all their manpower and its position can change dramatically if the war lasts until winter.
      - exhilaration 4y ago
        I'm with you, I can't see how - long term - Russia could possibly lose. Sure they're a decade or two behind the West when it comes to technology but there's no way Ukraine can match Russia's manpower and industrial capacity. Then again, I really didn't think the U.S. could possibly lose to the Taliban, yet here we are.
rlpb 4y ago
I've started to notice that this is what you always post about Russia/Ukraine, but never with any links to evidence.

happyopossum 4y ago

> Denying reality does nobody any good. True, so why deny the reality that Russian tanks have proven to be horribly unreliable?

imwillofficial 4y ago
Hardly, info from the front outside of Twitter propaganda channels has shown otherwise. You don’t get 20% of a large country without reliable armor. Fact.
- _kbh_ 4y ago
  Russia didn't even maintain the tires on their supply trucks properly, leading to a lot of breakdowns from sun damage, and you think they have good maintenance on their tanks?. They have undoubtably got working tanks, but I think the quality and maintenance of those tanks is what remains to be seen.
  - imwillofficial 4y ago
    Where did you get this info? I feel like people are just pulling stuff out of their ass now. Russia is a near peer, of course they maintained everything. They have been preparing for this since 2012. Pretending our adversaries are magically incompetent does NOTHING for us except make us complacent. Use. Your. Brain. Do you really think any modern military isn’t maintaining the tires on they transport vehicle? Does that make any sense whatsoever?
    - _kbh_ 4y ago
      > Where did you get this info? Here's a very long twitter thread detailing all of it with photos. https://twitter.com/trenttelenko/status/1499164245250002944 https://twitter.com/trenttelenko/status/1499164245250002944 > I feel like people are just pulling stuff out of their ass now. I feel like you are underestimating just how corrupt Russia is > Russia is a near peer, of course they maintained everything. They have been preparing for this since 2012. Russia is no where near, a near peer to the USA. Every thought it was then it failed to take a city that was within ~300km of its borders. > Pretending our adversaries are magically incompetent does NOTHING for us except make us complacent. It's not pretend, they are just really bad at war. > Do you really think any modern military isn’t maintaining the tires on they transport vehicle? Does that make any sense whatsoever? Do you really think that the Russians are a near peer to the USA?.

signatoremo 4y ago

Russia isn’t winning. It’s essentially a stalemate at this point. Russia “paused” and “restarted” the war to shore up their force. Paywalled, but still: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/07/28/ukraine-russia-war-himars-missiles/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/07/28/ukraine-russ...

jeffreyrogers 4y ago
Aren't they occupying something like 20% of the country? Maybe they're overextended and will lose eventually, but sure seems like they're winning at the moment.
- bshipp 4y ago
  Russia is occupying a sizable portion of the country, but to do so has expended vast quantities of stockpiled munitions and manpower. Ukraine as well, but they have undertaken mass mobilization and have the West supporting them re-arm. Russia has no such replacement capacity. Given the dramatic military strength differential between Russia and the Ukraine, the fact they are at a stalemate is, itself, a huge victory for Ukraine and a crippling defeat for Russia.
  - jeffreyrogers 4y ago
    We'll see. I'm not as optimistic as you. Russia hasn't mobilized all their manpower and its position can change dramatically if the war lasts until winter.
    - exhilaration 4y ago
      I'm with you, I can't see how - long term - Russia could possibly lose. Sure they're a decade or two behind the West when it comes to technology but there's no way Ukraine can match Russia's manpower and industrial capacity. Then again, I really didn't think the U.S. could possibly lose to the Taliban, yet here we are.

rlpb 4y ago

I've started to notice that this is what you always post about Russia/Ukraine, but never with any links to evidence.