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Google's denial takes nothing away from the credibility of this rumor. Google isn't going to deviate from their own preplanned PR campaign on any product's dem

Google's denial takes nothing away from the credibility of this rumor. Google isn't going to deviate from their own preplanned PR campaign on any product's demise just because a rumor leaked. That doesn't mean this rumor is true, only that the denial has no informational content for evaluating the rumor. Yet on the other hand, if Google really wanted to refute the rumor, they'd say "It's not true, we have a firm roadmap for improvements and expansions etc." And actually have a published roadmap they could point to. Instead they claim they're working on getting new games but from what I can piece together we're about 60% through 2022 and Google has only released 37 of the promised 100+ new games that would come to the platform this year. They could make up some ground but they're not on pace for it.

alphabetting 4y ago
Regardless of the denial, it's total fiction made up by a troll https://twitter.com/FantiR91/status/1553021127882145793 https://twitter.com/FantiR91/status/1553021127882145793
- effingwewt 4y ago
  Doesn't matter it's omly believable because this is Google 101. Google's own track record has me more likely to believe in a complete shut down rather than an extended life cycle.
tmpz22 4y ago
With Battlefield 5 Dice Stockholm did the roadmap promise thing then just didn’t add the features. In my experience roadmap promises are an acknowledgement you’re already borked.
CryZe 4y ago
According to this comment on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/wb4jl6/comment/ii5d607/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/wb4jl6/comment/ii5d...: - Stadia signed multimillion deal with EA for Fifa23 and is taking preorders for this game. - Stadia takes preorders for another game releasing in Autumn. - Stadia announced expansion to Mexico later this year. - they are recruiting new staff.
- ineedasername 4y ago
  I don't see sources for those claims, but even taking them at face value means very little. Agreements mean nothing if the service goes away, and Google can very well be on the verge of cancelling it but still operating otherwise in case they don't. Ditto for preorders and ditto Google's claim they'll expand to Mexico "later this year". Whatever plans they had aren't going to stop until the decision to kill it is near final, meaning a rumor thay Google is likely to cancel it can be completely consistent with these other activities. It may even depend on these other activities: if there aren't enough preorders for one of the most popular sports games in the world (Fifa) and if attempts to expand to Mexico fail or at lackluster-- those may be the final criteria google is using to decide on Stadia's future.
ekianjo 4y ago
> only that the denial has no informational content for evaluating the rumor. Disagree. They could have reacted in different ways: - a) completely ignoring the rumor. - b) make a "no-comment" message. - c) deny the rumor - d) confirm the rumor a) and b) may increase the likelihood of the rumor being true. But going for c) is clearly an indication that it's not in their short-term plans.
- ineedasername 4y ago
  C) is only a clear indication under a too-short idea of what "short-term" means for a company like Google. For large corporations 9-12 months is short term, and 1-2 years not too long to fall into that category either. Critical points in Stadia's success are coming up in next few months. Pre orders for one of the most popular sports games in the world, releasing 100 games by the end of the year-- a benchmark they're behind on-- and a precarious expansion into Mexico. These should show results before the end of the year, 5 months from now. If they underperform then I think it's extremely possible that a service cancellation would be announced within 9-12 months. In the other hand they had no option except C, not really. Anything else would have as good as killed the service anyway. A) or B) would mean updated articles and new headlines would read "Google Won't Deny Rumours of Stadia's Death". B) would be the worst: "Google won't commit to further Stadia Support". If they might kill it sometimes in the short term of 9-12 months but haven't made a final decision yet then C) was their only option regardless of the truth of any of those. C) conveys the least information (I'd say none) of those options because it does not provide any way to evaluate the truth of the statement unless you take Google at it's word. And yet whether or not we can take them at their word is exactly the thing in question.
kernal 4y ago
>Google's denial takes nothing away from the credibility of this rumor. Let this comment sink in for a while. An official comment from Stadia "takes nothing away" from an anonymous source with no track record or credibility whatsoever. >Yet on the other hand, if Google really wanted to refute the rumor They did something worse - they mocked it and exposed it for the ridiculous rumour it was.
- kbelder 4y ago
  >Let this comment sink in for a while. An official comment from Stadia "takes nothing away" from an anonymous source with no track record or credibility whatsoever. Yeah, let it sink in. Doesn't it say something terrible about Google that their official denial carries no more weight than an anonymous, possibly troll source?
- tekknik 4y ago
  > An official comment from Stadia "takes nothing away" from an anonymous source with no track record or credibility whatsoever. Yes sometimes those with inside knowledge are covering their tracks. NDAs and such.

alphabetting 4y ago

Regardless of the denial, it's total fiction made up by a troll https://twitter.com/FantiR91/status/1553021127882145793 https://twitter.com/FantiR91/status/1553021127882145793

effingwewt 4y ago
Doesn't matter it's omly believable because this is Google 101. Google's own track record has me more likely to believe in a complete shut down rather than an extended life cycle.

tmpz22 4y ago

With Battlefield 5 Dice Stockholm did the roadmap promise thing then just didn’t add the features. In my experience roadmap promises are an acknowledgement you’re already borked.

CryZe 4y ago

According to this comment on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/wb4jl6/comment/ii5d607/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/wb4jl6/comment/ii5d...: - Stadia signed multimillion deal with EA for Fifa23 and is taking preorders for this game. - Stadia takes preorders for another game releasing in Autumn. - Stadia announced expansion to Mexico later this year. - they are recruiting new staff.

ineedasername 4y ago
I don't see sources for those claims, but even taking them at face value means very little. Agreements mean nothing if the service goes away, and Google can very well be on the verge of cancelling it but still operating otherwise in case they don't. Ditto for preorders and ditto Google's claim they'll expand to Mexico "later this year". Whatever plans they had aren't going to stop until the decision to kill it is near final, meaning a rumor thay Google is likely to cancel it can be completely consistent with these other activities. It may even depend on these other activities: if there aren't enough preorders for one of the most popular sports games in the world (Fifa) and if attempts to expand to Mexico fail or at lackluster-- those may be the final criteria google is using to decide on Stadia's future.

ekianjo 4y ago

> only that the denial has no informational content for evaluating the rumor. Disagree. They could have reacted in different ways: - a) completely ignoring the rumor. - b) make a "no-comment" message. - c) deny the rumor - d) confirm the rumor a) and b) may increase the likelihood of the rumor being true. But going for c) is clearly an indication that it's not in their short-term plans.

ineedasername 4y ago
C) is only a clear indication under a too-short idea of what "short-term" means for a company like Google. For large corporations 9-12 months is short term, and 1-2 years not too long to fall into that category either. Critical points in Stadia's success are coming up in next few months. Pre orders for one of the most popular sports games in the world, releasing 100 games by the end of the year-- a benchmark they're behind on-- and a precarious expansion into Mexico. These should show results before the end of the year, 5 months from now. If they underperform then I think it's extremely possible that a service cancellation would be announced within 9-12 months. In the other hand they had no option except C, not really. Anything else would have as good as killed the service anyway. A) or B) would mean updated articles and new headlines would read "Google Won't Deny Rumours of Stadia's Death". B) would be the worst: "Google won't commit to further Stadia Support". If they might kill it sometimes in the short term of 9-12 months but haven't made a final decision yet then C) was their only option regardless of the truth of any of those. C) conveys the least information (I'd say none) of those options because it does not provide any way to evaluate the truth of the statement unless you take Google at it's word. And yet whether or not we can take them at their word is exactly the thing in question.

kernal 4y ago

>Google's denial takes nothing away from the credibility of this rumor. Let this comment sink in for a while. An official comment from Stadia "takes nothing away" from an anonymous source with no track record or credibility whatsoever. >Yet on the other hand, if Google really wanted to refute the rumor They did something worse - they mocked it and exposed it for the ridiculous rumour it was.

kbelder 4y ago
>Let this comment sink in for a while. An official comment from Stadia "takes nothing away" from an anonymous source with no track record or credibility whatsoever. Yeah, let it sink in. Doesn't it say something terrible about Google that their official denial carries no more weight than an anonymous, possibly troll source?
tekknik 4y ago
> An official comment from Stadia "takes nothing away" from an anonymous source with no track record or credibility whatsoever. Yes sometimes those with inside knowledge are covering their tracks. NDAs and such.