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> We can no longer shame people into behaving civilly. We also can't shame people into being straight, monogamous, christian, etc. So overall I'd say this one
by vorpalhex 4y ago
> We can no longer shame people into behaving civilly.
We also can't shame people into being straight, monogamous, christian, etc. So overall I'd say this one is a win, even if it has some downsides.
> We've lost most of our social tools for dealing with dangerous and extreme views.
It was a couple hundred years ago we burned people alive for being witches. Less than a hundred years ago we lynched people for interracial relationships. Less than 50 years ago we arrested people for being obviously gay.
Extreme views aren't new. We didn't crack down on them historically, they actually got baked into the culture and it's norms.
I much prefer this new generally chill thing we are doing as a culture.
- bena 4y agoTrue. There have been benefits as well. And that's also part of the rub. We want the good without the bad. But we were getting better about a lot of that stuff even without the level of communication we have today. We stopped lynching people for "miscegenation" long before the internet. We stopped arresting people for being gay before Facebook. I wouldn't call storming government buildings all that chill. And look at what's happening. We've overturned Roe v Wade and they made specific mention of other decisions that affect gay marriage. We are on the road back to making being gay illegal. You can have too much of something.
- vorpalhex 4y ago> We've overturned Roe v Wade and they made specific mention of other decisions that affect gay marriage. This is not a new debate but even as someone who is pro-choice, Roe was bad law. I don't buy into the Alito theory of substantive due process not being real - and neither do any of the other justices. That being said, yes, congress is supposed to make laws, not the bench. Congress should still enshrine gay marriage.