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Funny as stadia might have seen huge adoption IF they didn’t have a reputation of killing services and leaving the service user to hang. Killing of stadia only

Funny as stadia might have seen huge adoption IF they didn’t have a reputation of killing services and leaving the service user to hang. Killing of stadia only reaffirms peoples fear to use google products. This includes GCP.

ascagnel_ 4y ago
Google could have side-stepped this by offering a Game Pass-style all-you-can-eat subscription service instead of full-price games. While I'll be bummed if one of those subscription services goes away, I won't feel as if something I own is being taken away from me.
- angryasian 4y ago
  Agree, I thought this was supposed to be a netflix of gaming. The other problem is Xbox and PS both have cloud offerings like this and are better options
Ekaros 4y ago
Which meminds me that I might need to spend day or two during my vacation to move all of the services from gmail to possibly more stable address...
piva00 4y ago
I have definitely avoided Stadia because I wanted to give it some 5 years to see if it wouldn't be another dead Google project. I really didn't want to be right but here we are... I'm glad to be forever cautious with Google's new products, they've burnt me a few times the past 15 years.
- number6 4y ago
  I switched to geforce now after some time. You can play the games you bought on steam and other platforms and just pay for computing
googlryas 4y ago
They don't really have a reputation of that, except on forums like hn, which is not indicative of the broader market. Even among gamers, this reputation of Google doesn't exist.
- alasdair_ 4y ago
  > this reputation of Google doesn't exist. To be fair, most gamers I’ve talked to don’t even know what Stadia IS. By definition, gamers play games. To do that, they almost always own a console or gaming pc to do so. As a result, they have no need for Stadia in the first place.
  - kiawe_fire 4y ago
    This is why I think things like Stadia are targeting a very small market. You have casual gamers, that are perfectly happy playing natively on their phones or laptops at low settings. Then you have “serious” gamers, that tend to be happy spending hundreds of dollars to make sure they have up to date hardware to get the most of their games (and thus, likely won’t be happy with the latency or game selection of Stadia). Somewhere in between is a market of people that say “gee, I really want to play Destiny, at full graphics, and I’m ok with a little latency, but I can’t or don’t want to buy a better PC or $500 box for it”. I’m sure that market exists, but it’s gotta be rather small in the best of circumstances, right?
alasdair_ 4y ago
Exactly. Google has such a strong reputation for killing products now that I’m just now willing to invest in anything they create any more. IMO they need to fix the internal corporate culture and move it away from short-term OKR goals and promotions based on launching new stuff and a bit more towards helping to maintain and grow existing projects.
pelorat 4y ago
Console gamers already have consoles to play games on. PC gamers already have PCs to play games on. The Gen Z generation play games on their mobile phones. What happened is that Google thought there were huge amounts of people out there that so badly wanted to play games, but couldn't because they can't afford the hardware, that they would flock to Stadia as their first gaming platform. Those people don't exist in any significant numbers. Every self-identifying gamer (me included) knew this service was DoA.

ascagnel_ 4y ago

Google could have side-stepped this by offering a Game Pass-style all-you-can-eat subscription service instead of full-price games. While I'll be bummed if one of those subscription services goes away, I won't feel as if something I own is being taken away from me.

angryasian 4y ago
Agree, I thought this was supposed to be a netflix of gaming. The other problem is Xbox and PS both have cloud offerings like this and are better options

Ekaros 4y ago

Which meminds me that I might need to spend day or two during my vacation to move all of the services from gmail to possibly more stable address...

piva00 4y ago

I have definitely avoided Stadia because I wanted to give it some 5 years to see if it wouldn't be another dead Google project. I really didn't want to be right but here we are... I'm glad to be forever cautious with Google's new products, they've burnt me a few times the past 15 years.

number6 4y ago
I switched to geforce now after some time. You can play the games you bought on steam and other platforms and just pay for computing

googlryas 4y ago

They don't really have a reputation of that, except on forums like hn, which is not indicative of the broader market. Even among gamers, this reputation of Google doesn't exist.

alasdair_ 4y ago
> this reputation of Google doesn't exist. To be fair, most gamers I’ve talked to don’t even know what Stadia IS. By definition, gamers play games. To do that, they almost always own a console or gaming pc to do so. As a result, they have no need for Stadia in the first place.
- kiawe_fire 4y ago
  This is why I think things like Stadia are targeting a very small market. You have casual gamers, that are perfectly happy playing natively on their phones or laptops at low settings. Then you have “serious” gamers, that tend to be happy spending hundreds of dollars to make sure they have up to date hardware to get the most of their games (and thus, likely won’t be happy with the latency or game selection of Stadia). Somewhere in between is a market of people that say “gee, I really want to play Destiny, at full graphics, and I’m ok with a little latency, but I can’t or don’t want to buy a better PC or $500 box for it”. I’m sure that market exists, but it’s gotta be rather small in the best of circumstances, right?

alasdair_ 4y ago

Exactly. Google has such a strong reputation for killing products now that I’m just now willing to invest in anything they create any more. IMO they need to fix the internal corporate culture and move it away from short-term OKR goals and promotions based on launching new stuff and a bit more towards helping to maintain and grow existing projects.

pelorat 4y ago

Console gamers already have consoles to play games on. PC gamers already have PCs to play games on. The Gen Z generation play games on their mobile phones. What happened is that Google thought there were huge amounts of people out there that so badly wanted to play games, but couldn't because they can't afford the hardware, that they would flock to Stadia as their first gaming platform. Those people don't exist in any significant numbers. Every self-identifying gamer (me included) knew this service was DoA.