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> I do have to manage my attention to avoid ... ahem ... drawing unwanted attention > I [. . .] never ever made anybody feel uncomfortable for sure Really dou

> I do have to manage my attention to avoid ... ahem ... drawing unwanted attention > I [. . .] never ever made anybody feel uncomfortable for sure Really doubt both of these things are true. It's very obvious if someone has to intentionally avoid looking around a place naturally. The people around you will notice and they will know why, and that will make them uncomfortable. I really don't understand this impulse either. As someone who has frequently hung out with friends of my age naked, and I consider many of them very attractive, I just do not get aroused in this situation. If it's clear that it's not a sexual situation what is there to get excited about? Are you so sexually repressed that any attractive person in the nude causes such an involuntary reaction?

2-718-281-828 4y ago
> As someone who has frequently hung out with friends of my age naked, and I consider many of them very attractive, I just do not get aroused in this situation > Are you [and certainly not me] so sexually repressed that any attractive person in the nude causes such an involuntary reaction? both of these things can't be true either :D A sauna is usally small with seats arranged around an oven. If an attractive woman with ample bosom is sitting at right angles to me then it can be optically impossible not to constantly notice ... and yes, there are women who are seeking attention and optimize for it actively.
- s1artibartfast 4y ago
  One of my favorite stories is seeing a pair of naked Men walking down the sidewalk in the Castro. They had matching prince Albert's, with shiny chains ganging off their penises. They would chastise people on the sidewalk for looking at them. I like to think they were doing it tongue in cheek, a kind of performance art. In my experience, the gay male community has a pretty good culture of noticing bodies and then moving on.
  - 2-718-281-828 4y ago
    That sounds pretty funny!
s1artibartfast 4y ago
I think there are two thing going on. First, a huge a mount of people are sexually repressed in the west. Second, is a double standard where looking around naturally is upsetting to some in a nude setting. This causes a lot of issues with people trying to behave in ways that were never natural to them. When I meet someone at a work or a coffee shop, I will look at them and notice what shit, pants, and shoes they are wearing. What their body type is and if they work out. It isn't a sexual thing, just part of being an observant and curious person. This level of attention is generally regarded as impolite for some nudists. They want to be naked but they also want their bodies to be invisible to others, which causes some serious conflicts with reality.
chimprich 4y ago
> Are you so sexually repressed that any attractive person in the nude causes such an involuntary reaction? That's the opposite of sexual repression isn't it? (Taking the term literally). If you are getting more aroused in a situation than is socially acceptable, then it seems you are insufficiently repressed.
- leaflets2 4y ago
  Can't one bring a towel and cover ones thighs, if need arise? And thereafter, no longer any need to worry about reacting to beautiful women, because if I've does, no one would notice anyway? Or maybe it can look suspicious if suddenly one reaches for one's towel? I've never been in a nude sauna though, not common around here. Seems as if could be good, anyway, with a "safety plan" to avoid getting embarrassed
  - 2-718-281-828 4y ago
    > Can't one bring a towel and cover ones thighs, if need arise? And thereafter, no longer any need to worry about reacting to beautiful women, because if I've does, no one would notice anyway? all a boy needs to bring for such a situation is fond memories of your grandma :D
    - leaflets2 4y ago
      Or looking down into the bench, closing ones eyes, and thinking about a pile of dead kittens!
vorpalhex 4y ago
It depends on the viewer too and their mood and circumstance. There are times I can watch an orgy disinterestedly. Then there are times someone wears a slightly tight shirt and I need to go hide behind a counter.

2-718-281-828 4y ago

> As someone who has frequently hung out with friends of my age naked, and I consider many of them very attractive, I just do not get aroused in this situation > Are you [and certainly not me] so sexually repressed that any attractive person in the nude causes such an involuntary reaction? both of these things can't be true either :D A sauna is usally small with seats arranged around an oven. If an attractive woman with ample bosom is sitting at right angles to me then it can be optically impossible not to constantly notice ... and yes, there are women who are seeking attention and optimize for it actively.

s1artibartfast 4y ago
One of my favorite stories is seeing a pair of naked Men walking down the sidewalk in the Castro. They had matching prince Albert's, with shiny chains ganging off their penises. They would chastise people on the sidewalk for looking at them. I like to think they were doing it tongue in cheek, a kind of performance art. In my experience, the gay male community has a pretty good culture of noticing bodies and then moving on.
- 2-718-281-828 4y ago
  That sounds pretty funny!

s1artibartfast 4y ago

I think there are two thing going on. First, a huge a mount of people are sexually repressed in the west. Second, is a double standard where looking around naturally is upsetting to some in a nude setting. This causes a lot of issues with people trying to behave in ways that were never natural to them. When I meet someone at a work or a coffee shop, I will look at them and notice what shit, pants, and shoes they are wearing. What their body type is and if they work out. It isn't a sexual thing, just part of being an observant and curious person. This level of attention is generally regarded as impolite for some nudists. They want to be naked but they also want their bodies to be invisible to others, which causes some serious conflicts with reality.

chimprich 4y ago

> Are you so sexually repressed that any attractive person in the nude causes such an involuntary reaction? That's the opposite of sexual repression isn't it? (Taking the term literally). If you are getting more aroused in a situation than is socially acceptable, then it seems you are insufficiently repressed.

leaflets2 4y ago
Can't one bring a towel and cover ones thighs, if need arise? And thereafter, no longer any need to worry about reacting to beautiful women, because if I've does, no one would notice anyway? Or maybe it can look suspicious if suddenly one reaches for one's towel? I've never been in a nude sauna though, not common around here. Seems as if could be good, anyway, with a "safety plan" to avoid getting embarrassed
- 2-718-281-828 4y ago
  > Can't one bring a towel and cover ones thighs, if need arise? And thereafter, no longer any need to worry about reacting to beautiful women, because if I've does, no one would notice anyway? all a boy needs to bring for such a situation is fond memories of your grandma :D
  - leaflets2 4y ago
    Or looking down into the bench, closing ones eyes, and thinking about a pile of dead kittens!

vorpalhex 4y ago

It depends on the viewer too and their mood and circumstance. There are times I can watch an orgy disinterestedly. Then there are times someone wears a slightly tight shirt and I need to go hide behind a counter.