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Must admit I find it discouraging that I spend years in university years ago when people now just finish some self-learned material in a matter of a few months.

Must admit I find it discouraging that I spend years in university years ago when people now just finish some self-learned material in a matter of a few months. It is only getting simpler every year. I don't see the future being bright for this discipline if the sentiment is that that is all it takes.

joshmanders 4y ago
> I don't see the future being bright for this discipline if the sentiment is that that is all it takes. Building web apps isn't rocket science lol. You're just positioning divs on a screen and building basic CRUD apps. You can indeed learn most of what you need in 3 months. The rest is learned with experience in the real world.
- Cwizard 4y ago
  Exactly I think there are different types of jobs. If you just need to make a basic web site I am sure you can learn those skills in a few months. Being able to build real systems is another matter entirely and requires a lot of learning (formal or not) and years of experience. For me this is the difference between a developer and a software engineer.
sktrdie 4y ago
Not sure why you find it discouraging. Having a degree means you probably went through a more formal process and were exposed to a more academic-way of studying things which can benefit your career as well as your personal life. Knowledge is always good!
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huimang 4y ago
Code monkeys are different than programmers (or "software engineers"). Nobody is learning, actually learning, all these topics in a condensed 3-month program. Good programmers are always going to have work, because there simply aren't enough good programmers.
Server6 4y ago
This guy has a degree and worked in commercial real-estate. He's intelligent and capable of working in tech. Bootcamps are retraining programs, not degree programs. They're not going to turn dummies into software engineers.
dqpb 4y ago
Most programming these days is just a very shitty version of configuration management.

joshmanders 4y ago

> I don't see the future being bright for this discipline if the sentiment is that that is all it takes. Building web apps isn't rocket science lol. You're just positioning divs on a screen and building basic CRUD apps. You can indeed learn most of what you need in 3 months. The rest is learned with experience in the real world.

Cwizard 4y ago
Exactly I think there are different types of jobs. If you just need to make a basic web site I am sure you can learn those skills in a few months. Being able to build real systems is another matter entirely and requires a lot of learning (formal or not) and years of experience. For me this is the difference between a developer and a software engineer.

sktrdie 4y ago

Not sure why you find it discouraging. Having a degree means you probably went through a more formal process and were exposed to a more academic-way of studying things which can benefit your career as well as your personal life. Knowledge is always good!

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huimang 4y ago

Code monkeys are different than programmers (or "software engineers"). Nobody is learning, actually learning, all these topics in a condensed 3-month program. Good programmers are always going to have work, because there simply aren't enough good programmers.

Server6 4y ago

This guy has a degree and worked in commercial real-estate. He's intelligent and capable of working in tech. Bootcamps are retraining programs, not degree programs. They're not going to turn dummies into software engineers.

dqpb 4y ago

Most programming these days is just a very shitty version of configuration management.