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This is absolutely false. Feel free to quote this post in October. HN has a pretty high caliber of commenter compared to other forums. People believing a basele

This is absolutely false. Feel free to quote this post in October. HN has a pretty high caliber of commenter compared to other forums. People believing a baseless rumor so easily is sad.

Havoc 4y ago
>People believing a baseless rumor so easily is sad. There is an incredibly long list of precedents: https://killedbygoogle.com https://killedbygoogle.com Scroll through that and once you get to the bottom tell me people are still being unreasonable... I am glad to hear (anonymous) confirmation that it isn't getting killed though.
- endisneigh 4y ago
  That list is irrelevant. Even if Google had never killed a product before, it would be worth believing if there is solid evidence. Here, there is none.
  - jjulius 4y ago
    >That list is irrelevant. A company's operating history is absolutely relevant to whether or not people believe rumors about it's operations.
    - endisneigh 4y ago
      Believing baseless conjecture is dumb imo.
  - MichaelCollins 4y ago
    > That list is irrelevant. You said the rumor is baseless, but that list is a rock solid foundation for any rumor of Google cancelling anything.
    - endisneigh 4y ago
      That’s not how it works. Would you believe the same about Google Ads? Rock solid foundation and all that.
      - MichaelCollins 4y ago
        Any confidence I have in the continued existence of Google Ads comes from Google Ads persisting for several years already. That confers approximately zero confidence to Stadia. Stadia is new to Google, and that list shows that things new to Google are very likely to be cancelled. If Stadia hangs on for 20 years, then expectations will be adjusted, but that hasn't happened so it's foolish to expect it.
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        endisneigh 4y ago
        Do you believe Google will cancel Cloud? It’s also new. If you do there’s money to be made shorting Google.
forgetfulness 4y ago
Google consumer products have a pretty bad track record, and using Google Workspace sometimes seems to cross the line to becoming a liability, with their approach to customer support and lockout appeal process. Google Cloud is another story, they don't seem to shut down anything there and you have actual support lines. But we aren't talking about that here.
bogwog 4y ago
What do you consider a "baseless rumor"? There's an anonymous source behind this one, and while we obviously don't know who the source is, I wouldn't consider that "baseless". Take it with a grain of salt, sure, but that's true for any rumor. Also, you seem to be implying that you also have an anonymous source at Google (or are one yourself). Either way, the credibility of your comment isn't any better than that Twitter account, even if you think HN commenters are "higher caliber" than people on Twitter.
- endisneigh 4y ago
  Anonymous sources providing nothing but a statement are baseless. Stadia will exist by the end of the summer. You don’t have to believe me. Like I said feel free to come back to this thread in October.
  - jjulius 4y ago
    >Anonymous sources providing nothing but a statement are baseless. To the parent commenter's point, you said, "This is absolutely false". Do you have actual evidence otherwise, or are you making baseless conjecture based on, well... baseless conjecture?
    - endisneigh 4y ago
      Me not having evidence doesn’t mean it’s not true. Indeed my statement is equally dubious as the Twitter one. However you’ll see that I’m correct by just coming back to this thread in October. Proving a negative is generally difficult to begin with.
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      - jjulius 4y ago
        Then I'm really not sure what your intent is here. After all, you said it yourself... >Believing baseless conjecture is dumb imo. So, it's dumb to believe baseless conjecture, but we should believe your baseless conjecture that someone else's baseless conjecture is wrong.
p3rls 4y ago
Wouldn't the classic Bayesian analogy here be you hear a tiger in New York, with the caveat that several dozen of your neighbors have eaten in the past few years (https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/) by a family of the escaped cats from the Bronx Zoo.

This is absolutely false. Feel free to quote this post in October. HN has a pretty high caliber of commenter compared to other forums. People believing a baseless rumor so easily is sad.

Havoc 4y ago

>People believing a baseless rumor so easily is sad. There is an incredibly long list of precedents: https://killedbygoogle.com https://killedbygoogle.com Scroll through that and once you get to the bottom tell me people are still being unreasonable... I am glad to hear (anonymous) confirmation that it isn't getting killed though.

endisneigh 4y ago
That list is irrelevant. Even if Google had never killed a product before, it would be worth believing if there is solid evidence. Here, there is none.
- jjulius 4y ago
  >That list is irrelevant. A company's operating history is absolutely relevant to whether or not people believe rumors about it's operations.
  - endisneigh 4y ago
    Believing baseless conjecture is dumb imo.
- MichaelCollins 4y ago
  > That list is irrelevant. You said the rumor is baseless, but that list is a rock solid foundation for any rumor of Google cancelling anything.
  - endisneigh 4y ago
    That’s not how it works. Would you believe the same about Google Ads? Rock solid foundation and all that.
    - MichaelCollins 4y ago
      Any confidence I have in the continued existence of Google Ads comes from Google Ads persisting for several years already. That confers approximately zero confidence to Stadia. Stadia is new to Google, and that list shows that things new to Google are very likely to be cancelled. If Stadia hangs on for 20 years, then expectations will be adjusted, but that hasn't happened so it's foolish to expect it.
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      - endisneigh 4y ago
        Do you believe Google will cancel Cloud? It’s also new. If you do there’s money to be made shorting Google.

forgetfulness 4y ago

Google consumer products have a pretty bad track record, and using Google Workspace sometimes seems to cross the line to becoming a liability, with their approach to customer support and lockout appeal process. Google Cloud is another story, they don't seem to shut down anything there and you have actual support lines. But we aren't talking about that here.

bogwog 4y ago

What do you consider a "baseless rumor"? There's an anonymous source behind this one, and while we obviously don't know who the source is, I wouldn't consider that "baseless". Take it with a grain of salt, sure, but that's true for any rumor. Also, you seem to be implying that you also have an anonymous source at Google (or are one yourself). Either way, the credibility of your comment isn't any better than that Twitter account, even if you think HN commenters are "higher caliber" than people on Twitter.

endisneigh 4y ago
Anonymous sources providing nothing but a statement are baseless. Stadia will exist by the end of the summer. You don’t have to believe me. Like I said feel free to come back to this thread in October.
- jjulius 4y ago
  >Anonymous sources providing nothing but a statement are baseless. To the parent commenter's point, you said, "This is absolutely false". Do you have actual evidence otherwise, or are you making baseless conjecture based on, well... baseless conjecture?
  - endisneigh 4y ago
    Me not having evidence doesn’t mean it’s not true. Indeed my statement is equally dubious as the Twitter one. However you’ll see that I’m correct by just coming back to this thread in October. Proving a negative is generally difficult to begin with.
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    - jjulius 4y ago
      Then I'm really not sure what your intent is here. After all, you said it yourself... >Believing baseless conjecture is dumb imo. So, it's dumb to believe baseless conjecture, but we should believe your baseless conjecture that someone else's baseless conjecture is wrong.

p3rls 4y ago

Wouldn't the classic Bayesian analogy here be you hear a tiger in New York, with the caveat that several dozen of your neighbors have eaten in the past few years (https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/) by a family of the escaped cats from the Bronx Zoo.