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This is an anonymous source (not even verified by the original publicizer of the rumor) reporting second hand on what their "regional manager" friend heard in a

by jsnell 4y ago

This is an anonymous source (not even verified by the original publicizer of the rumor) reporting second hand on what their "regional manager" friend heard in a "seminar". Why give any credence to this? This is about as close as it gets to "my friend has an uncle working at Nintendo" level of sourcing, but it's being taken as absolute fact by basically everyone in this thread. Mr. Killedbygoogle doesn't seem to be all that confident in this either, and is hiding behind a "I'm just a shit poster" defense: https://twitter.com/killedbygoogle/status/1552930023484657665 https://twitter.com/killedbygoogle/status/155293002348465766...

revolvingocelot 4y ago
Yeah... The "rumour" has been going on for a while -- I myself helped promulgate it, just after Stadia released!! I smugly clicked into TFA, expecting my cynicism to finally be flattered, but... Like the parent says, this is just that same smuggery we commenters have been predicting since the service started. It's not like the writing on the wall is ambiguous, it's just not official. This isn't the official announcement either.
the_biot 4y ago
You're absolutely right. I think the reason this kind of non-news gets any traction at all is that Google is known to shut down services rather than fix their revenue model, and that Stadia has been a failure for some time. So we all know Google will shut it down, just waiting for it. Keep launching this rumor, and you'll be right eventually.
Sebb767 4y ago
It also plays right into peoples biases, so they'll keep their doubt low. If I were to spread any rumor to get my ten minutes of fame, Stadia shutting down would be the rumor to spread.
CSSer 4y ago
There's a fine line between a rumor and an open secret. I personally have experienced exactly what you described. One of my coworkers knows someone on the Stadia team. Based on the gossip I've heard completely independent of this 'revelation' that all turned out to be true, it wouldn't surprise me. Who cares? It's not like I've got any any money riding on it, and frankly everyone should know better about Google's behavior attitude about this stuff by now.
lenova 4y ago
Goolge Stadia twitter account is saying the rumour is false: https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656 https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656
- Sakos 4y ago
  They'd say that no matter what, even if it were true. They're as believable as the Twitter poster.
- rvz 4y ago
  Of course they will. They are not 'shutting down soon'. They will be shutting down by the end of autumn. They don't want to scare their users and confirm that it really is shutting down immediately today, or next week. This account is damage control at its finest and Google will release a statement and then wind all of Stadia down, including that Twitter account in denial. Given that Stadia failed in the pandemic, it already failed in general. I mean, I did say that this information was given to me from the future [0] so I've already watched this unfold once. Now it is unfolding for the second time for real. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27039202 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27039202
- ineedasername 4y ago
  Google's denial takes nothing away from the credibility of this rumor. Google isn't going to deviate from their own preplanned PR campaign on any product's demise just because a rumor leaked. That doesn't mean this rumor is true, only that the denial has no informational content for evaluating the rumor. Yet on the other hand, if Google really wanted to refute the rumor, they'd say "It's not true, we have a firm roadmap for improvements and expansions etc." And actually have a published roadmap they could point to. Instead they claim they're working on getting new games but from what I can piece together we're about 60% through 2022 and Google has only released 37 of the promised 100+ new games that would come to the platform this year. They could make up some ground but they're not on pace for it.
  - alphabetting 4y ago
    Regardless of the denial, it's total fiction made up by a troll https://twitter.com/FantiR91/status/1553021127882145793 https://twitter.com/FantiR91/status/1553021127882145793
setgree 4y ago
But the baseline probability -- that Google will shut Stadia down at some point -- is what, 80%? higher? So even 'straw-in-the-wind' evidence [0] consistent with that hypothesis is probably pointing in the right direction. [0] https://polisci.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/people/u3827/Understanding%20Process%20Tracing.pdf https://polisci.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/people/u382...

by jsnell 4y ago

revolvingocelot 4y ago

Yeah... The "rumour" has been going on for a while -- I myself helped promulgate it, just after Stadia released!! I smugly clicked into TFA, expecting my cynicism to finally be flattered, but... Like the parent says, this is just that same smuggery we commenters have been predicting since the service started. It's not like the writing on the wall is ambiguous, it's just not official. This isn't the official announcement either.

the_biot 4y ago

You're absolutely right. I think the reason this kind of non-news gets any traction at all is that Google is known to shut down services rather than fix their revenue model, and that Stadia has been a failure for some time. So we all know Google will shut it down, just waiting for it. Keep launching this rumor, and you'll be right eventually.

Sebb767 4y ago

It also plays right into peoples biases, so they'll keep their doubt low. If I were to spread any rumor to get my ten minutes of fame, Stadia shutting down would be the rumor to spread.

CSSer 4y ago

There's a fine line between a rumor and an open secret. I personally have experienced exactly what you described. One of my coworkers knows someone on the Stadia team. Based on the gossip I've heard completely independent of this 'revelation' that all turned out to be true, it wouldn't surprise me. Who cares? It's not like I've got any any money riding on it, and frankly everyone should know better about Google's behavior attitude about this stuff by now.

lenova 4y ago

Goolge Stadia twitter account is saying the rumour is false: https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656 https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656

Sakos 4y ago
They'd say that no matter what, even if it were true. They're as believable as the Twitter poster.
rvz 4y ago
Of course they will. They are not 'shutting down soon'. They will be shutting down by the end of autumn. They don't want to scare their users and confirm that it really is shutting down immediately today, or next week. This account is damage control at its finest and Google will release a statement and then wind all of Stadia down, including that Twitter account in denial. Given that Stadia failed in the pandemic, it already failed in general. I mean, I did say that this information was given to me from the future [0] so I've already watched this unfold once. Now it is unfolding for the second time for real. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27039202 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27039202
ineedasername 4y ago
Google's denial takes nothing away from the credibility of this rumor. Google isn't going to deviate from their own preplanned PR campaign on any product's demise just because a rumor leaked. That doesn't mean this rumor is true, only that the denial has no informational content for evaluating the rumor. Yet on the other hand, if Google really wanted to refute the rumor, they'd say "It's not true, we have a firm roadmap for improvements and expansions etc." And actually have a published roadmap they could point to. Instead they claim they're working on getting new games but from what I can piece together we're about 60% through 2022 and Google has only released 37 of the promised 100+ new games that would come to the platform this year. They could make up some ground but they're not on pace for it.
- alphabetting 4y ago
  Regardless of the denial, it's total fiction made up by a troll https://twitter.com/FantiR91/status/1553021127882145793 https://twitter.com/FantiR91/status/1553021127882145793

setgree 4y ago

But the baseline probability -- that Google will shut Stadia down at some point -- is what, 80%? higher? So even 'straw-in-the-wind' evidence [0] consistent with that hypothesis is probably pointing in the right direction. [0] https://polisci.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/people/u3827/Understanding%20Process%20Tracing.pdf https://polisci.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/people/u382...