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Am a similarly profiled (neo)vim user .. but without cat. Sometimes I catch strange letter combinations like "gqip" in my emails that baffle the recipients. Wan

by sriku 4y ago

Am a similarly profiled (neo)vim user .. but without cat. Sometimes I catch strange letter combinations like "gqip" in my emails that baffle the recipients. Want vim keys everywhere!

christophilus 4y ago
This is me all the time. The worst is “kkk”. I can’t remember why I type it in vim (it’s muscle memory, and I’m not at a computer to try it out), but it has really bad connotations here in the US south, so… no bueno.
- h0l0cube 4y ago
  Unsolicited advice for scrolling without spamming j and k: - C-u and C-d to jump up/down - [ and ] to go prev/next empty line (I have a macro to clear empty spaces at the end of lines so this works well for jumping functions in code) - from the article: 50% to go the halfway point of a document - 100gg to go to line 100 - 100k to go 100 lines down Are there any more good ones? Edit: occurs to me that you might have remapped kkk to escape normal mode. At one time I had done this for jj. Now I just use C-[ as it’s portable to vanilla vim setups and less of a stretch than the escape key.
  - benrow 4y ago
    I like using L and H to go to bottom or top of screen to initiate scrolling with j or k. You can scroll up or down without moving the cursor using Ctrl-Y and Ctrl-E but I find those a bit hard to get used to.
  - AdieuToLogic 4y ago
    > Are there any more good ones? I find these handy, especially after doing a search (quoted from :h z): - z. redraw, cursor line to center of window - z<CR> redraw, cursor line to top of window - z- redraw, cursor line at bottom of window
  - Izkata 4y ago
    :set relativenumber The line the cursor is on is now shown in the left sidebar as 0, counting up for each line away from the cursor. So now it tells you what number to use for "10j" and "10k" to move up and down a specific number of lines. m[a-z] `[a-z] Mark a point in a file into a register, and jump back to that point. Or even more interesting: m[A-Z] `[A-Z] Same as above, except capital marks are global and work across files. Also, `` Jump back to the last place you jumped from (but only within the same file).
    - hajile 4y ago
      I also set scrolloff to 10 or so that way I can always see what's above/below what I'm currently editing.
    - scruple 4y ago
      My only problem with relative line numbers (and I use them despite this) is working with ranges of line numbers. For instance, I'll maybe be doing some refactoring and want to see what it looks like to move lines 127,137 to my current cursor (127,137t.). With relative line numbers I have to do some quick arithmetic to sort out the range.
      - yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
        I believe it's possible to enable relative and absolute numbers at the same time
  - raverbashing 4y ago
    > advice for scrolling without spamming j and k Or just use the directional keys and PgUp/PgDown like any person in the last 30 yrs
    - h0l0cube 4y ago
      Every time my fingers have to leave the home row I feel pain. Mostly from knowing that I’m likely to typo straight after, or have to remove my gaze from the screen to check my fingers and then find my position on the screen again. It really breaks flow and that flow was a big motivation for me to start using vim
  - pge 4y ago
    H, M, and L will move the cursor to the top, middle and bottom (respectively) of the screen. That is, H moves the cursor to the top visible line on the screen, L to the last line currently visible, and M to the middle. Cursor moves but text does not. zt, zz, and zb are similar but move the text not the cursor. So, zt will take the current line the cursor is on and make it the first visible line on the screen (and keep the cursor on that line). zz to the middle, zb to the bottom. Personally, I use [ and ] to jump around most often in code, but the above are handy when you are working with documents.
  - chasd00 4y ago
    :1 to go to the top of the file, G to goto the bottom of the file
    - h0l0cube 4y ago
      gg will take you up to the top as well
  - Macha 4y ago
    { / } jump to start/end of the block. Between that and 20j and (blasphemy probably) just using the scroll wheel, that handles most of my scrolling needs.
    - h0l0cube 4y ago
      I think I meant to write { and } (which is previous/next empty line) instead of [ and ] which can be combined like [( ]) or [{ ]} to go to the beginning and end of parentheses and curly brackets respectively. % is good for jumping between matching parenthesis... I wish there was something like this for *ml tags inbuilt (e.g., go to matching <div> <-> </div>)
- galangalalgol 4y ago
  I always map jj to esc in my vimrc so I don't have to leave the home row. My code in vscode often fails to compile at first because lines end with ;jj
  - vbrandl 4y ago
    Since I have no use for it, I like to globally (not just in vim) map caps to ESC.
    - galangalalgol 4y ago
      Not a bad idea, but its still not the home row, and its a weak finger. If I wanted a pinky ginger workout I'd use emacs. I may still try it out. But decade long habits...
- rob74 4y ago
  Not only in the US south. In Germany, there is a health insurance called "Kaufmännische Krankenkasse", and when I first saw their name abbreviated, I wondered why it was written KKH for about half a second...
  - glxxyz 4y ago
    KKH = Kaufmännische Krankenkasse Hauptverwaltung
- brennopost 4y ago
  In Brazil is just a laugh.
- Mildlypolite 4y ago
  Can I ask what kkk means? I thought it meant that you were laughing like haha (a leas in Brazil) I didn't know it had bad connotations
  - af16090 4y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan
    - Mildlypolite 4y ago
      Perhaps in US but in Brazil it is common use to write kkk to laugh
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
- dieselgate 4y ago
  It’s funny to read about this because I’m sure many people have this same internal thought process when using vim
dbalatero 4y ago
If you want Vim keys everywhere… A friend of mine I met through my own similar (free) library is developing this like a madman: https://kindavim.app https://kindavim.app It costs $3/month (coffee) but for a Vim person like me I gladly pay. Making this work across macOS is a total mess and a full-time job, and it's not trivial work. If you want a free version, I have https://github.com/dbalatero/VimMode.spoon https://github.com/dbalatero/VimMode.spoon as a Hammerspoon plugin that works pretty OK, but I'm not actively developing it and prefer the kindaVim app at this point.
- dieselgate 4y ago
  Dang that’s cool, I used tridactyl a bit in web browsers and it just got too messy in a browser (in addition to the new key bindings). In theory I support this endeavor but one of my biggest annoyances is when applications “overwrite” default/expected keybindings (looking at you excel web app). It seems to me a large part of web accessibility is being able to navigate a computer without even a mouse (hey that’s what vim does) but I really wish there was full OS support for this (seems to be the goal for kindaVim?) opposed to a “layer”. Certainly best of luck and cheers to the development efforts - have taken note
- SxC97 4y ago
  I can also recommend sketchyVim as I think it just uses your normal .vimrc file for its configuration and it’s FOSS.
daemoncoder 4y ago
There's an AutoHotkey script for that!

by sriku 4y ago

Am a similarly profiled (neo)vim user .. but without cat. Sometimes I catch strange letter combinations like "gqip" in my emails that baffle the recipients. Want vim keys everywhere!

christophilus 4y ago

This is me all the time. The worst is “kkk”. I can’t remember why I type it in vim (it’s muscle memory, and I’m not at a computer to try it out), but it has really bad connotations here in the US south, so… no bueno.

h0l0cube 4y ago
Unsolicited advice for scrolling without spamming j and k: - C-u and C-d to jump up/down - [ and ] to go prev/next empty line (I have a macro to clear empty spaces at the end of lines so this works well for jumping functions in code) - from the article: 50% to go the halfway point of a document - 100gg to go to line 100 - 100k to go 100 lines down Are there any more good ones? Edit: occurs to me that you might have remapped kkk to escape normal mode. At one time I had done this for jj. Now I just use C-[ as it’s portable to vanilla vim setups and less of a stretch than the escape key.
- benrow 4y ago
  I like using L and H to go to bottom or top of screen to initiate scrolling with j or k. You can scroll up or down without moving the cursor using Ctrl-Y and Ctrl-E but I find those a bit hard to get used to.
- AdieuToLogic 4y ago
  > Are there any more good ones? I find these handy, especially after doing a search (quoted from :h z): - z. redraw, cursor line to center of window - z<CR> redraw, cursor line to top of window - z- redraw, cursor line at bottom of window
- Izkata 4y ago
  :set relativenumber The line the cursor is on is now shown in the left sidebar as 0, counting up for each line away from the cursor. So now it tells you what number to use for "10j" and "10k" to move up and down a specific number of lines. m[a-z] `[a-z] Mark a point in a file into a register, and jump back to that point. Or even more interesting: m[A-Z] `[A-Z] Same as above, except capital marks are global and work across files. Also, `` Jump back to the last place you jumped from (but only within the same file).
  - hajile 4y ago
    I also set scrolloff to 10 or so that way I can always see what's above/below what I'm currently editing.
  - scruple 4y ago
    My only problem with relative line numbers (and I use them despite this) is working with ranges of line numbers. For instance, I'll maybe be doing some refactoring and want to see what it looks like to move lines 127,137 to my current cursor (127,137t.). With relative line numbers I have to do some quick arithmetic to sort out the range.
    - yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
      I believe it's possible to enable relative and absolute numbers at the same time
- raverbashing 4y ago
  > advice for scrolling without spamming j and k Or just use the directional keys and PgUp/PgDown like any person in the last 30 yrs
  - h0l0cube 4y ago
    Every time my fingers have to leave the home row I feel pain. Mostly from knowing that I’m likely to typo straight after, or have to remove my gaze from the screen to check my fingers and then find my position on the screen again. It really breaks flow and that flow was a big motivation for me to start using vim
- pge 4y ago
  H, M, and L will move the cursor to the top, middle and bottom (respectively) of the screen. That is, H moves the cursor to the top visible line on the screen, L to the last line currently visible, and M to the middle. Cursor moves but text does not. zt, zz, and zb are similar but move the text not the cursor. So, zt will take the current line the cursor is on and make it the first visible line on the screen (and keep the cursor on that line). zz to the middle, zb to the bottom. Personally, I use [ and ] to jump around most often in code, but the above are handy when you are working with documents.
- chasd00 4y ago
  :1 to go to the top of the file, G to goto the bottom of the file
  - h0l0cube 4y ago
    gg will take you up to the top as well
- Macha 4y ago
  { / } jump to start/end of the block. Between that and 20j and (blasphemy probably) just using the scroll wheel, that handles most of my scrolling needs.
  - h0l0cube 4y ago
    I think I meant to write { and } (which is previous/next empty line) instead of [ and ] which can be combined like [( ]) or [{ ]} to go to the beginning and end of parentheses and curly brackets respectively. % is good for jumping between matching parenthesis... I wish there was something like this for *ml tags inbuilt (e.g., go to matching <div> <-> </div>)
galangalalgol 4y ago
I always map jj to esc in my vimrc so I don't have to leave the home row. My code in vscode often fails to compile at first because lines end with ;jj
- vbrandl 4y ago
  Since I have no use for it, I like to globally (not just in vim) map caps to ESC.
  - galangalalgol 4y ago
    Not a bad idea, but its still not the home row, and its a weak finger. If I wanted a pinky ginger workout I'd use emacs. I may still try it out. But decade long habits...
rob74 4y ago
Not only in the US south. In Germany, there is a health insurance called "Kaufmännische Krankenkasse", and when I first saw their name abbreviated, I wondered why it was written KKH for about half a second...
- glxxyz 4y ago
  KKH = Kaufmännische Krankenkasse Hauptverwaltung
brennopost 4y ago
In Brazil is just a laugh.
Mildlypolite 4y ago
Can I ask what kkk means? I thought it meant that you were laughing like haha (a leas in Brazil) I didn't know it had bad connotations
- af16090 4y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan
  - Mildlypolite 4y ago
    Perhaps in US but in Brazil it is common use to write kkk to laugh
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
dieselgate 4y ago
It’s funny to read about this because I’m sure many people have this same internal thought process when using vim

dbalatero 4y ago

If you want Vim keys everywhere… A friend of mine I met through my own similar (free) library is developing this like a madman: https://kindavim.app https://kindavim.app It costs $3/month (coffee) but for a Vim person like me I gladly pay. Making this work across macOS is a total mess and a full-time job, and it's not trivial work. If you want a free version, I have https://github.com/dbalatero/VimMode.spoon https://github.com/dbalatero/VimMode.spoon as a Hammerspoon plugin that works pretty OK, but I'm not actively developing it and prefer the kindaVim app at this point.

dieselgate 4y ago
Dang that’s cool, I used tridactyl a bit in web browsers and it just got too messy in a browser (in addition to the new key bindings). In theory I support this endeavor but one of my biggest annoyances is when applications “overwrite” default/expected keybindings (looking at you excel web app). It seems to me a large part of web accessibility is being able to navigate a computer without even a mouse (hey that’s what vim does) but I really wish there was full OS support for this (seems to be the goal for kindaVim?) opposed to a “layer”. Certainly best of luck and cheers to the development efforts - have taken note
SxC97 4y ago
I can also recommend sketchyVim as I think it just uses your normal .vimrc file for its configuration and it’s FOSS.

daemoncoder 4y ago

There's an AutoHotkey script for that!