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Yes but there are 2nd order effects to consider. 1) The cooler it is, the more buffer/time you have to deal with a temperature issue 2) There is a thermal grad

Yes but there are 2nd order effects to consider. 1) The cooler it is, the more buffer/time you have to deal with a temperature issue 2) There is a thermal gradient between the hottest parts of the system and the cool ambient temperature. The cooler it is, the quicker that heat is removed. For every degree in difference, the cooling effect is increased/decreased. That said, I wonder how many people actually know what the optimal should be and how many people just think that, hey, 15 degrees C should be OK!

donkeyd 4y ago
> I wonder how many people actually know what the optimal should be Well, data center operations is a pretty competitive business with many acquisitions happening. Especially larger companies, like Equinix are buying up smaller companies. The large ones have entire teams dedicated to energy efficiency, both for cost savings and due to regulations popping up. Coincidentally I've worked with a guy that does exactly this. His entire job is figuring out ways to make the data centers more efficient and I know that there are working groups where different operators come together to discuss ways to save energy. So I'm sure not that many people will know the optimal temperature, but the ones that need to know, know. Small, on premise data centers might be winging it, but the ones that are running the majority of the internet are really trying to improve efficiency, just to stay competitive.
- justsomehnguy 4y ago
  In my experience the the biggest problem is changing an existing layout. You can do much beforehand, but as soon the systems are in production...
  - scohesc 4y ago
    I imagine a bunch of datacenter techs running around moving servers on wheeled carts that have ethernet cables trailing behind them and a beeping UPS in the bottom of the cart while the techs rush to move the servers before the batteries run out :P
    - justsomehnguy 4y ago
      I don't know if you ever heard it, but this is an exact description of how it is done.
ljnsagdjnlas 4y ago
The big guys are likely all monitoring it extensively. Knew a guy at one of the big guys and they had a google maps style web interface where you could view and monitor in real time the temperature of every rack throughout every datacenter and then even zoom into individual racks to view each servers temperature. It was also automated so that techs would get issues assigned to them to investigate servers/racks that were running too hot or getting throttled in order to try and fix the issue.

donkeyd 4y ago

> I wonder how many people actually know what the optimal should be Well, data center operations is a pretty competitive business with many acquisitions happening. Especially larger companies, like Equinix are buying up smaller companies. The large ones have entire teams dedicated to energy efficiency, both for cost savings and due to regulations popping up. Coincidentally I've worked with a guy that does exactly this. His entire job is figuring out ways to make the data centers more efficient and I know that there are working groups where different operators come together to discuss ways to save energy. So I'm sure not that many people will know the optimal temperature, but the ones that need to know, know. Small, on premise data centers might be winging it, but the ones that are running the majority of the internet are really trying to improve efficiency, just to stay competitive.

justsomehnguy 4y ago
In my experience the the biggest problem is changing an existing layout. You can do much beforehand, but as soon the systems are in production...
- scohesc 4y ago
  I imagine a bunch of datacenter techs running around moving servers on wheeled carts that have ethernet cables trailing behind them and a beeping UPS in the bottom of the cart while the techs rush to move the servers before the batteries run out :P
  - justsomehnguy 4y ago
    I don't know if you ever heard it, but this is an exact description of how it is done.

ljnsagdjnlas 4y ago

The big guys are likely all monitoring it extensively. Knew a guy at one of the big guys and they had a google maps style web interface where you could view and monitor in real time the temperature of every rack throughout every datacenter and then even zoom into individual racks to view each servers temperature. It was also automated so that techs would get issues assigned to them to investigate servers/racks that were running too hot or getting throttled in order to try and fix the issue.