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No disrespect, but....Chinese spying company? It's free and you are definitely not the product, but your information and contacts and photos and videos sure loo

by ngold 4y ago

No disrespect, but....Chinese spying company? It's free and you are definitely not the product, but your information and contacts and photos and videos sure look tasty to the CCP.

mrtksn 4y ago
I'm not American, most of the people aren't and from our perspective FB and TikTok are exactly the same. In fact, Europeans and British can positively say that FB had a substantial life changing impact due to personal data misuse and political manipulation. It's one of the core reasons most Europeans would like to see their data protected and Tech giants held accountable. Be it American or Chinese or another one. You might argue about EU/US alliance and say that CCP are the devil but the fact is, US is documented to spy on scale, have spying partnerships with US tech giant(Google for Snowden and WikiLeaks), rich history of organising coups and political movements and most importantly the political situation in US is also not stable and it's quite possible for Americans to elect EU-hostile president with questionable ties to Russian oligarchs like the last time. The situation with TikTok might be a new phenomenon for the Americans but it's how the rest of the world has been living in the last 30 years.
- freshpots 4y ago
  Are you really trying to compare a dictatorship state to America? And I say this as as foreigner....you are creating quite the false equivalency here. But muh both sides....People need to stop looking at things in black and white.
  - mrtksn 4y ago
    > People need to stop looking at things in black and white. How saying that USA is the absolute angel and China is the absolute devil is not a black and white but saying that USA and China pose similar risks is black&white? Besides, a large number of Americans[0] are disputing the integrity of American elections, claim that America is ruled by a secret elite, claim that elections change nothing, claim that USA is about to be a dictatorship the moment gun control laws are introduced. Of course I don't believe in any of this BS but the movement of people who believe in this stuff is frightening and very weird things happen on the 6th of January in 2021 and things might change dramatically in near future. So yes, I do compare the USA and China in sense of a risk for Europe. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/05/america-biden-election-2020-poll-victory https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/05/america-bide...
  - xaedes 4y ago
    Comparing things that are equivalent is pretty pointless, because the outcome would always be the same: "they are the same". We compare things that may be similar but actually different. Comparing things highlights differences and commonalities.
  - tenpies 4y ago
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    - walls 4y ago
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    - skinnymuch 4y ago
      Which right wing influencers are your favorite? Tim Pool, Peterson, Shapiro, Tucker? Or politicians like Rubio, Paul, DeSantis, Hawley?

by ngold 4y ago

No disrespect, but....Chinese spying company? It's free and you are definitely not the product, but your information and contacts and photos and videos sure look tasty to the CCP.

mrtksn 4y ago

I'm not American, most of the people aren't and from our perspective FB and TikTok are exactly the same. In fact, Europeans and British can positively say that FB had a substantial life changing impact due to personal data misuse and political manipulation. It's one of the core reasons most Europeans would like to see their data protected and Tech giants held accountable. Be it American or Chinese or another one. You might argue about EU/US alliance and say that CCP are the devil but the fact is, US is documented to spy on scale, have spying partnerships with US tech giant(Google for Snowden and WikiLeaks), rich history of organising coups and political movements and most importantly the political situation in US is also not stable and it's quite possible for Americans to elect EU-hostile president with questionable ties to Russian oligarchs like the last time. The situation with TikTok might be a new phenomenon for the Americans but it's how the rest of the world has been living in the last 30 years.

freshpots 4y ago
Are you really trying to compare a dictatorship state to America? And I say this as as foreigner....you are creating quite the false equivalency here. But muh both sides....People need to stop looking at things in black and white.
- mrtksn 4y ago
  > People need to stop looking at things in black and white. How saying that USA is the absolute angel and China is the absolute devil is not a black and white but saying that USA and China pose similar risks is black&white? Besides, a large number of Americans[0] are disputing the integrity of American elections, claim that America is ruled by a secret elite, claim that elections change nothing, claim that USA is about to be a dictatorship the moment gun control laws are introduced. Of course I don't believe in any of this BS but the movement of people who believe in this stuff is frightening and very weird things happen on the 6th of January in 2021 and things might change dramatically in near future. So yes, I do compare the USA and China in sense of a risk for Europe. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/05/america-biden-election-2020-poll-victory https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/05/america-bide...
- xaedes 4y ago
  Comparing things that are equivalent is pretty pointless, because the outcome would always be the same: "they are the same". We compare things that may be similar but actually different. Comparing things highlights differences and commonalities.
- tenpies 4y ago
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  - walls 4y ago
  - deleted 4y ago
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  - skinnymuch 4y ago
    Which right wing influencers are your favorite? Tim Pool, Peterson, Shapiro, Tucker? Or politicians like Rubio, Paul, DeSantis, Hawley?