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Those are polar opposites. A button for 'disagree strongly' should upvote a comment. When Einstein and Niels Bohr 'strongly disagree' on quantum physics in 19

Those are polar opposites. A button for 'disagree strongly' should upvote a comment. When Einstein and Niels Bohr 'strongly disagree' on quantum physics in 1927, they start a debate that makes both of them more enlightened. When a bullshit artist, who couldn't care less about the truth, hijack a discussion to make it all about Him (it's almost always a dude), everyone become dumber. "Moving along" is not enough because the amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude larger than is needed to produce it. You need to actually downvote and hide it.

eru 4y ago
I wonder whether a voting system with more than one dimension could work here? (I am sure people have tried it before..)
- yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
  Like Slashdot, perhaps?
Banana699 4y ago
> Him (it's almost always a dude) I'm curious as to how you know the sex of anonymous posters.
- jmfayard 4y ago
  On websites where it's anonymous I infer that from what I have seen since 25 years on websites where it's not, and from attitudes people have IRL.
  - Banana699 4y ago
    What are the sort of rules you use to derive sex from text? Can you state some?
    - jmfayard 4y ago
      I can't do that in general. Certain attitudes OTOH are heavily gendered, like the psychology behind internet trolls who at the simplest level is that they want everyone's attention to orbit around them.
      - Banana699 4y ago
        Do you think women and girls don't want everyone's attention to orbit around them ?
        jmfayard 4y ago
        For women online in particular I'm pretty sure lots of them would rather enjoy less attention on them personally. Too much it not pleasant for _them_. I'm thinking in particular about friends who are content creators, minding her own business and receive comments on her look, insults, sexist comments, unsolicited dick pics, rape and death threats,... I'm sure sexism has nothing to do with that. OK I'm done on this topic. Maybe there are a lots of women behind internet trolls and then I'm wrong, that's an empirical question. My comment was on "strongly disagree" vs "bullshitting"
        Banana699 4y ago
        My followup question is why you felt the need to claim that the answer to an empirical question is something that you haven't verified empirically?
        kthejoker2 4y ago
        100% you are a dude.
        DangitBobby 4y ago
        My guess is that HN is mostly men, so you're likely to be right, but probably for the wrong reasons.
hackernewds 4y ago
> make it all about Him (it's almost always a dude) eyeroll
samatman 4y ago
> (it's almost always a dude) Yes you are https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32247166 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32247166 > hijack a discussion to make it all about Him Yeah, irrelevant misandry will do that.
- jmfayard 4y ago
  I have seen 25 years of internet trolling and this kind of attitude is gendered yes. Not in a binary way but in a bimodal one. I could have avoided the point because it's obvious though. I don't hate men because as you found out I'm one myself.

eru 4y ago

I wonder whether a voting system with more than one dimension could work here? (I am sure people have tried it before..)

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
Like Slashdot, perhaps?

Banana699 4y ago

> Him (it's almost always a dude) I'm curious as to how you know the sex of anonymous posters.

jmfayard 4y ago
On websites where it's anonymous I infer that from what I have seen since 25 years on websites where it's not, and from attitudes people have IRL.
- Banana699 4y ago
  What are the sort of rules you use to derive sex from text? Can you state some?
  - jmfayard 4y ago
    I can't do that in general. Certain attitudes OTOH are heavily gendered, like the psychology behind internet trolls who at the simplest level is that they want everyone's attention to orbit around them.
    - Banana699 4y ago
      Do you think women and girls don't want everyone's attention to orbit around them ?
      - jmfayard 4y ago
        For women online in particular I'm pretty sure lots of them would rather enjoy less attention on them personally. Too much it not pleasant for _them_. I'm thinking in particular about friends who are content creators, minding her own business and receive comments on her look, insults, sexist comments, unsolicited dick pics, rape and death threats,... I'm sure sexism has nothing to do with that. OK I'm done on this topic. Maybe there are a lots of women behind internet trolls and then I'm wrong, that's an empirical question. My comment was on "strongly disagree" vs "bullshitting"
        Banana699 4y ago
        My followup question is why you felt the need to claim that the answer to an empirical question is something that you haven't verified empirically?
        kthejoker2 4y ago
        100% you are a dude.
        DangitBobby 4y ago
        My guess is that HN is mostly men, so you're likely to be right, but probably for the wrong reasons.

hackernewds 4y ago

> make it all about Him (it's almost always a dude) eyeroll

samatman 4y ago

> (it's almost always a dude) Yes you are https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32247166 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32247166 > hijack a discussion to make it all about Him Yeah, irrelevant misandry will do that.

jmfayard 4y ago
I have seen 25 years of internet trolling and this kind of attitude is gendered yes. Not in a binary way but in a bimodal one. I could have avoided the point because it's obvious though. I don't hate men because as you found out I'm one myself.