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It's hard. HN specifically doesn't respond well to it. I'll give you concrete example: I once tried making a comment and mentioned 'universe rewards creativity'

by e9 4y ago

It's hard. HN specifically doesn't respond well to it. I'll give you concrete example: I once tried making a comment and mentioned 'universe rewards creativity', that got downvoted pretty hard, even though as engineering mind you should consider stuff like: - solving a problem in a smart way and get cred/promotion/recognition <- creativity rewarded - asking out/getting attention of a girl/boy you like <- creativity rewarded - paying for clothes you think is cool (some t-shirt with a cool text/drawing or something that looks good on you, etc) <- you literally giving money to the person who created it I'd love to hear your learnings though. Please do post where you are going to share them.

resatori 4y ago
Yeah, there are certain superstitions. The words have to be chosen carefully for the audience. 'Universe' is just too ... 'universal' of a word to make any sense of meaning of it. A better approach may be just to offer practical tools how to increase our potential for creativity... things we can actually try and do. It is a reward in itself.
- e9 4y ago
  You are right
- whateverbro 4y ago
  Then how are people going to acknowledge there are greater things than ourselves? There's no real compassion where you can find only ego. Becoming one with the universe is a real tangible goal that multiplies enlightenment all around us.
Delwtion 4y ago
Lots of thought we have is grown and more like a self discovery along your own path. Generic concepts, which have been thought of by plenty of others are easier to grasp. Like I thought about things until my sister gave me the word for it: nihilist. Understanding nihilim is still different than coming to the conclusion of nihilism. But plenty of other people draw their lines somewhere else. They don't follow philosophy because it's just not important for them. Or they made their peace long ago. Your example with creativity doesn't fit my world of nihilism at all (I wouldn't down vote it). So we are not aligned at all. And you / we are probably not aligned with lots of others on spiritual concepts. Im thinking about something similar to creativity: we are now so many people with fast interconnection in between us (internet, video) and the general though of something new that it's just a logical consequences that we need to explore all boundaries around us. I also have plenty of counter examples which did not gave a reward for being creative from 'the universe's. Being an artist is not easy. Your thshirt example is also more realted to capitalism. The original motivation is getting money for food. Those systems / constructs are not made by the universe they are made by us. Those are our constructs. We reward creativity due to the desire for new stimula. This goes more into machine learning or game theory: how to train a network to create an image? By creating a counter network checking if something is not an image.

by e9 4y ago

resatori 4y ago

Yeah, there are certain superstitions. The words have to be chosen carefully for the audience. 'Universe' is just too ... 'universal' of a word to make any sense of meaning of it. A better approach may be just to offer practical tools how to increase our potential for creativity... things we can actually try and do. It is a reward in itself.

e9 4y ago
You are right
whateverbro 4y ago
Then how are people going to acknowledge there are greater things than ourselves? There's no real compassion where you can find only ego. Becoming one with the universe is a real tangible goal that multiplies enlightenment all around us.

Delwtion 4y ago

Lots of thought we have is grown and more like a self discovery along your own path. Generic concepts, which have been thought of by plenty of others are easier to grasp. Like I thought about things until my sister gave me the word for it: nihilist. Understanding nihilim is still different than coming to the conclusion of nihilism. But plenty of other people draw their lines somewhere else. They don't follow philosophy because it's just not important for them. Or they made their peace long ago. Your example with creativity doesn't fit my world of nihilism at all (I wouldn't down vote it). So we are not aligned at all. And you / we are probably not aligned with lots of others on spiritual concepts. Im thinking about something similar to creativity: we are now so many people with fast interconnection in between us (internet, video) and the general though of something new that it's just a logical consequences that we need to explore all boundaries around us. I also have plenty of counter examples which did not gave a reward for being creative from 'the universe's. Being an artist is not easy. Your thshirt example is also more realted to capitalism. The original motivation is getting money for food. Those systems / constructs are not made by the universe they are made by us. Those are our constructs. We reward creativity due to the desire for new stimula. This goes more into machine learning or game theory: how to train a network to create an image? By creating a counter network checking if something is not an image.