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It's not just about snooping. It's also other things like being part of a botnet that's scanning for vulnerabilities or actively hacking or DDOSing or being us

It's not just about snooping. It's also other things like being part of a botnet that's scanning for vulnerabilities or actively hacking or DDOSing or being used in a proxy network

slimsag 4y ago
When users are used to updates screwing them over generally, it's not a surprise that we start to find people who don't want to update and disregard the security entirely.
- judge2020 4y ago
  iOS doesn't seem to have this problem, reaching "89% of all devices introduced in the last four years use iOS 15"[0]. iOS generally is less at-risk for these botnet issues since any botnet needs to be actively embedded within a popular app-store-installed app, especially if it wants to run expensive background tasks hitting HTTP endpoints. To add, since apps can't JIT, the apps can't RCE a jailbreak that would allow full system compromise, besides if the exploit chain is possible via a WebKit exploit (which is exceedingly rare[1]). 0: https://developer.apple.com/support/app-store/ https://developer.apple.com/support/app-store/ 1: https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/TotallyNotSpyware https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/TotallyNotSpyware
  - 28304283409234 4y ago
    That's because iPhone consumers are used to being screwed over.
- Gigachad 4y ago
  Users should probably buy devices from better venders. I certainly don’t worry about any negatives from an iOS update
  - weird-eye-issue 4y ago
    No issues with Google Pixel updates too
  - fauigerzigerk 4y ago
    >I certainly don’t worry about any negatives from an iOS update Really? I always have issues after iOS upgrades, mostly related to iCloud. But I still update ASAP because as soon as a new iOS version is released, the old version causes even more iCloud problems. Apple and the whole iOS ecosystem just doesn't tolerate old versions (which is mostly a good thing but also has some downsides)
    - samstave 4y ago
      iOS updates are frustrating because you never know what privacy toggles get un-toggled. Further, there are time when I DONT want my devices to update. Device management in iCloud is utterly poor, I should be able to manage all my privacy settings for all my iOS devices in FUCKING iCLOUD!

It's not just about snooping. It's also other things like being part of a botnet that's scanning for vulnerabilities or actively hacking or DDOSing or being used in a proxy network

slimsag 4y ago

When users are used to updates screwing them over generally, it's not a surprise that we start to find people who don't want to update and disregard the security entirely.

judge2020 4y ago
iOS doesn't seem to have this problem, reaching "89% of all devices introduced in the last four years use iOS 15"[0]. iOS generally is less at-risk for these botnet issues since any botnet needs to be actively embedded within a popular app-store-installed app, especially if it wants to run expensive background tasks hitting HTTP endpoints. To add, since apps can't JIT, the apps can't RCE a jailbreak that would allow full system compromise, besides if the exploit chain is possible via a WebKit exploit (which is exceedingly rare[1]). 0: https://developer.apple.com/support/app-store/ https://developer.apple.com/support/app-store/ 1: https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/TotallyNotSpyware https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/TotallyNotSpyware
- 28304283409234 4y ago
  That's because iPhone consumers are used to being screwed over.
Gigachad 4y ago
Users should probably buy devices from better venders. I certainly don’t worry about any negatives from an iOS update
- weird-eye-issue 4y ago
  No issues with Google Pixel updates too
- fauigerzigerk 4y ago
  >I certainly don’t worry about any negatives from an iOS update Really? I always have issues after iOS upgrades, mostly related to iCloud. But I still update ASAP because as soon as a new iOS version is released, the old version causes even more iCloud problems. Apple and the whole iOS ecosystem just doesn't tolerate old versions (which is mostly a good thing but also has some downsides)
  - samstave 4y ago
    iOS updates are frustrating because you never know what privacy toggles get un-toggled. Further, there are time when I DONT want my devices to update. Device management in iCloud is utterly poor, I should be able to manage all my privacy settings for all my iOS devices in FUCKING iCLOUD!