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>"I'm sure the US has committed 1 and 2, but I would assert that the scale and quality is quite different from what Russia is doing now in Ukraine." Talking ab

by FpUser 4y ago

>"I'm sure the US has committed 1 and 2, but I would assert that the scale and quality is quite different from what Russia is doing now in Ukraine." Talking about scale - number of dead in Iraq for example would dwarf that of Ukraine. I am not sure about "quality" but I find it repulsive to even talk this way about mass murder. >" Some of things I listed above (e.g. freedom of speech, free society) are strong motivators." I agree with that. >"And I'm not trying to make this personal by picking on the country you're from." I have no sympathy to that rabid dog Putin and to what he and his lapdogs are doing. Fuck him. Besides it's been more than 30 years. I pretty much feel Canadian ;)

theonething 4y ago
> Talking about scale - number of dead in Iraq for example would dwarf that of Ukraine. Edit: I was referring to the scale of war crimes committed. See this quote: > I'm sure the US has committed 1 and 2, but I would assert that the scale and quality 1 and 2 as listed in my comment are categories of war crimes. Russia in five months has committed war crimes at a scale that eclipses the US history of modern warfare. This does not include Russia's past history of documented war crimes. I meant quality not in the sense of high or low quality of war crimes, but the nature and severity of them. I think a better word in fact is severity. E.g. instances of severe atrocities including rape, murder, torture, targeting of civilians, etc.[1] Anyways, maybe I'm biased or brainwashed or whatever, but I see a qualitative difference between how the US conducts international affairs and the way Russia, China, North Korea, the Taliban, etc. do. I don't have the data to back it up, just my personal observations and experience. I trust the US and other western democracies way more than the other countries I listed. The former is nowhere near perfect, but also no where near as bad as these other governments/regimes. [1] This is severe. https://news.yahoo.com/footage-appears-show-russian-soldier-213707535.html https://news.yahoo.com/footage-appears-show-russian-soldier-... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10710451/Rape-Russian-weapon-war-Ukraine-tells-boy-assaulted-mother.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10710451/Rape-Russi... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_2022_Russian...

by FpUser 4y ago

theonething 4y ago

> Talking about scale - number of dead in Iraq for example would dwarf that of Ukraine. Edit: I was referring to the scale of war crimes committed. See this quote: > I'm sure the US has committed 1 and 2, but I would assert that the scale and quality 1 and 2 as listed in my comment are categories of war crimes. Russia in five months has committed war crimes at a scale that eclipses the US history of modern warfare. This does not include Russia's past history of documented war crimes. I meant quality not in the sense of high or low quality of war crimes, but the nature and severity of them. I think a better word in fact is severity. E.g. instances of severe atrocities including rape, murder, torture, targeting of civilians, etc.[1] Anyways, maybe I'm biased or brainwashed or whatever, but I see a qualitative difference between how the US conducts international affairs and the way Russia, China, North Korea, the Taliban, etc. do. I don't have the data to back it up, just my personal observations and experience. I trust the US and other western democracies way more than the other countries I listed. The former is nowhere near perfect, but also no where near as bad as these other governments/regimes. [1] This is severe. https://news.yahoo.com/footage-appears-show-russian-soldier-213707535.html https://news.yahoo.com/footage-appears-show-russian-soldier-... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10710451/Rape-Russian-weapon-war-Ukraine-tells-boy-assaulted-mother.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10710451/Rape-Russi... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_2022_Russian...