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On a scale of Samsung to Google, how bad does Asus load up their Android with crapware?
by VectorLock 4y ago
On a scale of Samsung to Google, how bad does Asus load up their Android with crapware?
- tintedfireglass 4y agonope it's just stock android
- smoldesu 4y agoNot sure, but earlier I looked it up and apparently Zenphones get really good LineageOS support.
- lkois 4y agoOoh neat. Definitely interested in this phone, with the short support life being one of the only apparent downsides. Am I right in thinking that lineageos support doesn't really have an "end of life"?
- Godel_unicode 4y agoYou are technically correct that there is not a formal end-of-life, but rather a point at which you will stop being able to update because there’s no longer a maintainer working on backporting patches for that device. At the end of the day, lineageos is best effort from volunteers, and you should weigh that fact when you decide what you want to use day to day.
- alfiedotwtf 4y agoLineageOS support is my only criteria for selecting a phone these days... this new Zenphone looks interesting
- igor47 4y agoWriting this on a Zenfone 8 running lineage, it works pretty well!
- jdright 4y agoThis thing looks hard to get up here in Canada
- Pasorrijer 4y agoMost Asus phones are carried at Staples here in Canada.... Another place to look is potentially Swiftronics.
- Marsymars 4y ago> Most Asus phones are carried at Staples here in Canada Maybe they were at one point, but the Zenfone 8 was never carried at retail in Canada, and Staples doesn’t currently have any Asus phones in stock.
- alfiedotwtf 4y agoVery nice! Ok done... I think I've found my next upgrade
- hef19898 4y agoHow does LineageOS compare to CalyxOS? I swore to myself to never run Google Android, or mostly Google in general, if I can avoid it. Which means Pixel phones that support CalyxOS or Graphene. Nothing wrong with Oixel hardware, but having some additional phone options would be great!
- RosanaAnaDana 4y agoAsking the real questions..
- paisawalla 4y agoWho is on which end of that crapware spectrum? And what is the crapware? Asking as someone who's only had a Pixel, or iPhone before that.
- Ayesh 4y agoSamsung being the worst end with many crapware, while Google just shipping stock Android, if you don't count Google's own software (such as the file manager, Phone , Messages, etc not crapware).
- zamalek 4y agoGoogle is no crapware, Samsung is as much crapware as possible. Samsung has their own version of every built-in app. Text messages for example, they have a much shittier version of "Messages" (no RCS support at least a few months ago). Their apps get set back to default randomly. Photos/Gallery, email, web browser, you name it. They then have other junk installed. Their own app store, their own voice assistant, and other useless/niche apps. You are blocked from uninstalling any of it. It is the scourge of Android. "Android One" was an effort by Google to curb it, but I think only Motorola signed up (in addition to Google, obviously). OnePlus started on the premise of a clean/stock experience, but have started losing their way (rather rapidly). "Nothing" is a new manufacturer aiming for a stock experience. Asus seems to be doing stock. If you ever consider moving away from Pixel I strongly recommend prioritizing a stock experience over _anything_ else. Crapware is maddening, full of bugs, and likely full of vulnerabilities.
- sofixa 4y agoThere were also Nokia (IIRC they still deliver basically stock Android) and Xiaomi who had a few dedicated models for some markets (mostly India but at least two were available in the EU) under Android One.
- booi 4y agoAh, you assumed Android One was the name when it's actually just the number of companies who want less crapware.
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- chc4 4y agoI got an Asus Zenfone 8 mostly because it was one of the smaller Android phones available. It's mostly stock with a few UI changes, and I don't think it had any bloatware apps preinstalled that I can remember.
- leeoniya 4y agoalso on a Zenfone 8 currently. main complaint is probably that the buttons are too easy to press. every time i pick it up i inevitably press something to wake it. hoping the 9 is better.
- simonmales 4y agoSame problem. Partly resolved by removing tap to wake on the screen. In fact all touch and motion gestures are off for me.
- leeoniya 4y agoi have that disabled. i mean the physical buttons on the sides. simply gripping the phone is sufficient to press them. really annoying.
- weird-eye-issue 4y agoHaving had a Samsung phone and vowing to never buy another despite how amazing the hardware was (S8) and now having a Google Pixel 5 - I love this scale
- hrrsn 4y agoThe last Android phone I used was a T-Mobile G1, but my employer recently provided me with a S21 FE. My god, the software is so user hostile - two diallers, two messaging apps, two browsers out of the box.
- Sateeshm 4y agoSamsung is also very sneaky and will consistently try to trick you into making samsung variant apps the default
- dutchCourage 4y agoI did S7 > Pixel > S20 and while there's still a few default apps (I counted 9) I'm not using, the bloatware is less invasive than it used to be. My stock apps live in a Samsung folder I never open and haven't bothered me once since I got it.
- Aachen 4y agoHaving had Samsung, Huawei, and bare android (lineageos), I know whose software I prefer... instead of a bare android with no shortcuts on the lockscreen or anywhere, and no customizability of where the back button is (should be under the thumb of the dominant hand imo), I'll have the Samsung or Huawei software please. The only downside is that you can't have microG on stock.