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A product marketing page that feels detailed and _honest_: this is something rarely seen in advertising material from big corporations. Kudos to Asus, not only

A product marketing page that feels detailed and _honest_: this is something rarely seen in advertising material from big corporations. Kudos to Asus, not only for the phone, which, by the way, seems interesting. If only the various hardware subsystems were supported natively in mainline kernel (and open source apps), we'd live in a hacker's dream world.

cmroanirgo 4y ago
... but it's so frustrating to click on some element of the page and then click/swipe back only to find suddenly you're back here on HN. Then, 2nd time around on the page you notice they've redesigned a simple web interface: Not a close button, but a 'minimise' but in a very light font. It seems they think throwing out tried and true user experience is a good thing. SPA has a lot to answer for. Also, while I'm on my soapbox... Having a fingerprint reader as the power button just makes sure that my phone is unlocked just as I put it in my pocket, just after I've locked it (by clicking the power button). Just today I've spammed a couple of voice messages to people just because of that. I'll not be buying another phone with one of those again! :rant off:
- marcusjt 4y ago
  Details are scarce so I'm speculating, but it's likely configurable so you can set it to unlock only if actually pressed/clicked rather than just touched, which should solve the problem. While the phone is on, the power/fingerprint button "also acts as an extra input, allowing you to pull down the notification shade by swiping across the button – or set it to refresh a page, scroll to the top, or control media playback if you prefer." [1] [1] - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techadvisor.com/article/805106/asus-zenfone-9.html/amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techadvisor.com/article/805...
- dsego 4y ago
  > Having a fingerprint reader as the power button just makes sure that my phone is unlocked just as I put it in my pocket Have the same on my xiaomi, but there is a setting so you must click to unlock which solved the issue for me.
column 4y ago
Detailed and honest? How is this different from all the flashy usual marketing bullshit on a active scroll (or whatever that's called) webpage? Do they mention on that page that SD card support has been removed this year or is it something you have to deduce because CTRL+F 'sd' returns 0 results? Detailed and honest would be spec sheet, camera samples, couple of standardized benchmarks, basically a Kimovil.com description page.
- niclo 4y ago
  Most of what you ask is easily available simply browsing the webpage though.
- kogepathic 4y ago
  > Do they mention on that page that SD card support has been removed this year According to GSMArena, the Zenfone 8 did not have an SD slot either. [1] Which is too bad, if Asus offered expandable storage on the Zenfone it would be the ideal phone for me. [1] https://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_8-10893.php https://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_8-10893.php
  - wslh 4y ago
    S*t, now nobody is offering a SD card slot? Neither Samsung nor Apple. Just when in 2022 you can have a large storage AND privacy. I think Huawei is the only one offering a Google mobile phone and storage? It is good that Apple offers mobile phones with internal storage of 1tb where Samsung ends up in 512gb but in this times of large photos and movies 2 TB should appear soon.
    - sofixa 4y ago
      > now nobody is offering a SD card slot For some reason sd card slot is like audio jack, it's considered a thing for middle tier phones. Xiaomi have a bunch of them (various Redmis for instance), and Samsung at least used to, I haven't checked recently.
      - 4y ago
lozenge 4y ago
It's taller than the iPhone SE (2022) and just as wide. It's mush bigger than the iPhone 12 Mini. There's nothing particularly compact about this phone. https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Asus-Zenfone-9,Apple-iPhone-12-mini/phones/11980,11333 https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Asus-Zenfone-9,Apple-...

cmroanirgo 4y ago

... but it's so frustrating to click on some element of the page and then click/swipe back only to find suddenly you're back here on HN. Then, 2nd time around on the page you notice they've redesigned a simple web interface: Not a close button, but a 'minimise' but in a very light font. It seems they think throwing out tried and true user experience is a good thing. SPA has a lot to answer for. Also, while I'm on my soapbox... Having a fingerprint reader as the power button just makes sure that my phone is unlocked just as I put it in my pocket, just after I've locked it (by clicking the power button). Just today I've spammed a couple of voice messages to people just because of that. I'll not be buying another phone with one of those again! :rant off:

marcusjt 4y ago
Details are scarce so I'm speculating, but it's likely configurable so you can set it to unlock only if actually pressed/clicked rather than just touched, which should solve the problem. While the phone is on, the power/fingerprint button "also acts as an extra input, allowing you to pull down the notification shade by swiping across the button – or set it to refresh a page, scroll to the top, or control media playback if you prefer." [1] [1] - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techadvisor.com/article/805106/asus-zenfone-9.html/amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techadvisor.com/article/805...
dsego 4y ago
> Having a fingerprint reader as the power button just makes sure that my phone is unlocked just as I put it in my pocket Have the same on my xiaomi, but there is a setting so you must click to unlock which solved the issue for me.

column 4y ago

Detailed and honest? How is this different from all the flashy usual marketing bullshit on a active scroll (or whatever that's called) webpage? Do they mention on that page that SD card support has been removed this year or is it something you have to deduce because CTRL+F 'sd' returns 0 results? Detailed and honest would be spec sheet, camera samples, couple of standardized benchmarks, basically a Kimovil.com description page.

niclo 4y ago
Most of what you ask is easily available simply browsing the webpage though.
kogepathic 4y ago
> Do they mention on that page that SD card support has been removed this year According to GSMArena, the Zenfone 8 did not have an SD slot either. [1] Which is too bad, if Asus offered expandable storage on the Zenfone it would be the ideal phone for me. [1] https://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_8-10893.php https://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_8-10893.php
- wslh 4y ago
  S*t, now nobody is offering a SD card slot? Neither Samsung nor Apple. Just when in 2022 you can have a large storage AND privacy. I think Huawei is the only one offering a Google mobile phone and storage? It is good that Apple offers mobile phones with internal storage of 1tb where Samsung ends up in 512gb but in this times of large photos and movies 2 TB should appear soon.
  - sofixa 4y ago
    > now nobody is offering a SD card slot For some reason sd card slot is like audio jack, it's considered a thing for middle tier phones. Xiaomi have a bunch of them (various Redmis for instance), and Samsung at least used to, I haven't checked recently.
    - 4y ago

lozenge 4y ago

It's taller than the iPhone SE (2022) and just as wide. It's mush bigger than the iPhone 12 Mini. There's nothing particularly compact about this phone. https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Asus-Zenfone-9,Apple-iPhone-12-mini/phones/11980,11333 https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Asus-Zenfone-9,Apple-...