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I was hoping to see my phone and I was not disappointed. > It is very likely that this is the last iPhone SE of its kind, the last “iPhone with a button” (a re

I was hoping to see my phone and I was not disappointed. > It is very likely that this is the last iPhone SE of its kind, the last “iPhone with a button” (a recurring joke here in Brazil). The reception from critics has been lukewarm and sales, apparently, below expectations. That’s a shame. This is saddening to read, and with how Apple is it's not like buying more of the same phone as a backup would work -- they'd all stop working at the same time, probably. The iPhone SE is so cheap that I could throw my phone to the ground for fun and not be bothered about buying a new one except for the annoyance of moving stuff over (which was actually really easy thanks to hard work by apple engineers). It's an intrusive thought (who would want to just throw their phone to the ground for no reason?) but knowing it's easily remedied is so freeing. We really need to start pushing frugality as a society. I know it's bad for GDP and status games, but some things just... shouldn't be spent on that much. Phones nearing identical quality/functionality are one of them.

alephxyz 4y ago
> I know it's bad for GDP That's the broken window fallacy
- hardwaresofton 4y ago
  It looks like the sarcasm went undetected. I thought noting GDP in the same sentence as status games was enough of a signal.
clairity 4y ago
it's not the same, but apple could add the home button on the side, even if they remove it from the front. it could incorporate the fingerprint sensor like the ipad, or they could use an in-display fingerprint sensor, combined with the removal of the front camera, and voilà, their holy grail single slab of glass iphone! i still use my trusty 6S because i prefer the fingerprint scanner and home button, plus having a real headphone jack is useful every now and then.
- hardwaresofton 4y ago
  > it's not the same, but apple could add the home button on the side, even if they remove it from the front. it could incorporate the fingerprint sensor like the ipad, or they could use an in-display fingerprint sensor, combined with the removal of the front camera, and voilà, their holy grail single slab of glass iphone! This is such a huge design question -- the button layout of the phone is now muscle memory for me! I do wonder if they'd make such a drastic change. > i still use my trusty 6S because i prefer the fingerprint scanner and home button, plus having a real headphone jack is useful every now and then. That's exactly what I upgraded from. I do miss my real headphone jack! What's your plan for support/new devices going forward?
  - clairity 4y ago
    i'd put the button where the thumb lands on the right side (even though i'd personally prefer the left, most people would prefer the right). i do love that i can put my phone upside down in my back pocket and lift it out with my thumb on the button and have it be open to the home screen when it's face up in front of me. my plan is, i'm gonna use this thing until it dies! =) but no, i'll probably upgrade next year, as the 6S no longer gets ios updates as of this year but i see no need to upgrade quite yet. i'm not sure if i'll get a 13 mini (assuming no more minis to come) or splurge and get a 15 (that i don't really need, but it'll be new and shiny and irresistable).
  - vgel 4y ago
    Not GP, but I also still run a 6S(+). I recently replaced the battery using an iFixIt kit, which fixed my main complaint with it. It still runs dog-slow, especially on modern websites, which is both bad and good in that if I keep the Reddit app uninstalled and use New Reddit, the memory leaks crashing my Safari tab is a good indication to stop using it :-) Unfortunately HN doesn't have such a feature... I didn't hear about the iOS 16 dropping support rumors until now :-(. But apparently the security updates will keep coming for a few years. I guess once apps start dropping support for iOS 15, I'll have to switch.

alephxyz 4y ago

> I know it's bad for GDP That's the broken window fallacy

hardwaresofton 4y ago
It looks like the sarcasm went undetected. I thought noting GDP in the same sentence as status games was enough of a signal.

clairity 4y ago

it's not the same, but apple could add the home button on the side, even if they remove it from the front. it could incorporate the fingerprint sensor like the ipad, or they could use an in-display fingerprint sensor, combined with the removal of the front camera, and voilà, their holy grail single slab of glass iphone! i still use my trusty 6S because i prefer the fingerprint scanner and home button, plus having a real headphone jack is useful every now and then.

hardwaresofton 4y ago
> it's not the same, but apple could add the home button on the side, even if they remove it from the front. it could incorporate the fingerprint sensor like the ipad, or they could use an in-display fingerprint sensor, combined with the removal of the front camera, and voilà, their holy grail single slab of glass iphone! This is such a huge design question -- the button layout of the phone is now muscle memory for me! I do wonder if they'd make such a drastic change. > i still use my trusty 6S because i prefer the fingerprint scanner and home button, plus having a real headphone jack is useful every now and then. That's exactly what I upgraded from. I do miss my real headphone jack! What's your plan for support/new devices going forward?
- clairity 4y ago
  i'd put the button where the thumb lands on the right side (even though i'd personally prefer the left, most people would prefer the right). i do love that i can put my phone upside down in my back pocket and lift it out with my thumb on the button and have it be open to the home screen when it's face up in front of me. my plan is, i'm gonna use this thing until it dies! =) but no, i'll probably upgrade next year, as the 6S no longer gets ios updates as of this year but i see no need to upgrade quite yet. i'm not sure if i'll get a 13 mini (assuming no more minis to come) or splurge and get a 15 (that i don't really need, but it'll be new and shiny and irresistable).
- vgel 4y ago
  Not GP, but I also still run a 6S(+). I recently replaced the battery using an iFixIt kit, which fixed my main complaint with it. It still runs dog-slow, especially on modern websites, which is both bad and good in that if I keep the Reddit app uninstalled and use New Reddit, the memory leaks crashing my Safari tab is a good indication to stop using it :-) Unfortunately HN doesn't have such a feature... I didn't hear about the iOS 16 dropping support rumors until now :-(. But apparently the security updates will keep coming for a few years. I guess once apps start dropping support for iOS 15, I'll have to switch.