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> We are all paying the price for not killing these myths. I can't tell you how many times I've taken on teaching a novice or junior developer and then had to

> We are all paying the price for not killing these myths. I can't tell you how many times I've taken on teaching a novice or junior developer and then had to un-teach them all the shit that Windows teaches users.

marcodiego 4y ago
There is a funny symptom among windows users when they have a notebook/laptop: they need a mouse. Even when the notebook has a good trackpad, they still need a mouse. I tried to investigate why this happens. What I suspect: windows overuse/abuse clicks. The user must click so many points, they don't care about using the keyboard or shortcuts. Also, AFAIK, only recently windows has support for things like two-finger scroll and right click by tapping with two fingers; most users don't even know this is possible and look surprised when I show them that. They have a need for a mouse. They scroll the text using the scrollbar, they use it even for moving the caret to the above line when writing code! It makes me sad just looking at that.
- spookie 4y ago
  Most students that age play videogames
- kiririn 4y ago
  Give me a mouse (with a good sensor and no acceleration) over keyboard navigation any day I appreciate there are people who swear by the keyboard driven text editors etc. But I feel like these people do not appreciate how fast you can be with a good mouse, low input lag and muscle memory
- inetknght 4y ago
  I admit I also use a mouse even on laptops. I hate trackpads. But my text experience is much more blended. If I move around a lot in a file then I might drag the scrollbar with the mouse. But if it's a few lines or maybe just a few pages then I'll use arrow keys (or tmux's or vi's equivalent) and sometimes pageup/pagedown. I particularly prefer being able to use globs and regular expressions for everything though. Files for all devices -- only relying on permissions -- is absolutely wonderful. And the best part is not (usually) having configuration hidden in some registry ... just use `grep -P` on `/etc` to find what needs to change.

marcodiego 4y ago

There is a funny symptom among windows users when they have a notebook/laptop: they need a mouse. Even when the notebook has a good trackpad, they still need a mouse. I tried to investigate why this happens. What I suspect: windows overuse/abuse clicks. The user must click so many points, they don't care about using the keyboard or shortcuts. Also, AFAIK, only recently windows has support for things like two-finger scroll and right click by tapping with two fingers; most users don't even know this is possible and look surprised when I show them that. They have a need for a mouse. They scroll the text using the scrollbar, they use it even for moving the caret to the above line when writing code! It makes me sad just looking at that.

spookie 4y ago
Most students that age play videogames
kiririn 4y ago
Give me a mouse (with a good sensor and no acceleration) over keyboard navigation any day I appreciate there are people who swear by the keyboard driven text editors etc. But I feel like these people do not appreciate how fast you can be with a good mouse, low input lag and muscle memory
inetknght 4y ago
I admit I also use a mouse even on laptops. I hate trackpads. But my text experience is much more blended. If I move around a lot in a file then I might drag the scrollbar with the mouse. But if it's a few lines or maybe just a few pages then I'll use arrow keys (or tmux's or vi's equivalent) and sometimes pageup/pagedown. I particularly prefer being able to use globs and regular expressions for everything though. Files for all devices -- only relying on permissions -- is absolutely wonderful. And the best part is not (usually) having configuration hidden in some registry ... just use `grep -P` on `/etc` to find what needs to change.