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"Mother sauces" is not gatekeeping lol, its an industry term. It's no more gatekeeping than "data structure." I don't understand at all, honestly - I see a ter

"Mother sauces" is not gatekeeping lol, its an industry term. It's no more gatekeeping than "data structure." I don't understand at all, honestly - I see a term I don't know, I grab the googs and figure it out. My first reaction isn't to accuse the person who knows something I don't of gatekeeping.

klipt 4y ago
- rfrey 4y ago
  It's because they're the very basic sauces that "give birth" to all the others. It's not because it's a sauce your mother used to make.
  - klipt 4y ago
    "Ancestor sauce" works fine for that and is less pointlessly gendered.
    - smegsicle 4y ago
      wouldn't that make it pointlessly ungendered? do you feel that gender is inherently bad?
  - wizofaus 4y ago
    Which is not what GP was suggesting... Though personally it seems a silly thing to get hung up on. I'd be more worried about the fact that for many the archetypical professional cook/chef is a man, and in fact men make up something like 75% of those who choose such a career, when it's abundantly clear that there are zero biological advantages to being male as a chef.
- scrollaway 4y ago
  I’ve flagged your comment because it’s essentially inviting a flame war, on top of being utterly irrelevant to the topic. 10 seconds on Wikipedia would have answered your question by the way. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_mother_sauces https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_mother_sauces The reason is that “sauce” is feminine in French. Une sauce. C’est tout. You want to talk about pointlessly gendered, as a French native I agree that the French language, as most other Romance languages, Slavic languages and several Germanic ones, are all pointlessly gendered. I am envious of English natives that don’t have to deal with knowing that a chair is feminine but a stool is masculine, a bank is feminine but a shop is masculine. Or that a book is masculine in French but feminine in Russian, and it’s the other way around for the unknown gender of a domesticated animal!!! Still I would invite you to learn more languages.
- arcticbull 4y ago
  I'm a male, and I cook far more than any of my friends - male or female. I've no problem with a "mother sauce" and in fact the thought never crossed my mind.

klipt 4y ago

rfrey 4y ago
It's because they're the very basic sauces that "give birth" to all the others. It's not because it's a sauce your mother used to make.
- klipt 4y ago
  "Ancestor sauce" works fine for that and is less pointlessly gendered.
  - smegsicle 4y ago
    wouldn't that make it pointlessly ungendered? do you feel that gender is inherently bad?
- wizofaus 4y ago
  Which is not what GP was suggesting... Though personally it seems a silly thing to get hung up on. I'd be more worried about the fact that for many the archetypical professional cook/chef is a man, and in fact men make up something like 75% of those who choose such a career, when it's abundantly clear that there are zero biological advantages to being male as a chef.
scrollaway 4y ago
I’ve flagged your comment because it’s essentially inviting a flame war, on top of being utterly irrelevant to the topic. 10 seconds on Wikipedia would have answered your question by the way. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_mother_sauces https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_mother_sauces The reason is that “sauce” is feminine in French. Une sauce. C’est tout. You want to talk about pointlessly gendered, as a French native I agree that the French language, as most other Romance languages, Slavic languages and several Germanic ones, are all pointlessly gendered. I am envious of English natives that don’t have to deal with knowing that a chair is feminine but a stool is masculine, a bank is feminine but a shop is masculine. Or that a book is masculine in French but feminine in Russian, and it’s the other way around for the unknown gender of a domesticated animal!!! Still I would invite you to learn more languages.
arcticbull 4y ago
I'm a male, and I cook far more than any of my friends - male or female. I've no problem with a "mother sauce" and in fact the thought never crossed my mind.