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Big Mac is $8 with tax. Let’s say Uber takes $4. If I texted you right now and said I’d pay you $8 to stop what you’re doing, drive to McDonalds, then drive to

by ipnon 4y ago

Big Mac is $8 with tax. Let’s say Uber takes $4. If I texted you right now and said I’d pay you $8 to stop what you’re doing, drive to McDonalds, then drive to a stranger’s home 2 miles away, would you do it? Not a lot of people would, there are nice jobs in America.

im3w1l 4y ago
You'd hope they batch a few orders up.
- catchnear4321 4y ago
  They do. Just good business sense. Why your order might be cold or incomplete. Well, one reason. Hopefully the drivers are fairly compensated. (They aren’t, hence the driver tip.) Delivery of food from arbitrary restaurants so you do not to leave the house, by companies underpaying drivers while raising prices silently, adding service fees, and trying to push the burden of compensating the driver on you via tips. First world problems require first world solutions.
NullPrefix 4y ago
Big Mac is $8 with tax. If I texted you right now and said I’d pay you $8 to stop what you’re doing, drive to grocery store to get buns, then get back to your kitchen and make the burger, would you do it? Not a lot of people would, there are nice jobs in America.
- spywaregorilla 4y ago
  Are you trying to explain why people don't work as on demand chefs?
  - NullPrefix 4y ago
    I'm trying to ask how is chef different from delivery driver?
    - spywaregorilla 4y ago
      Chefs (by which we really mean line cooks) don't drive to get ingredients and then go back to your kitchen. It takes about 4 minutes to make a big mac, and you're likely going to be cooking more than one big mac at a time. They also don't work on demand so this premise: > Big Mac is $8 with tax. If I texted you right now and said I’d pay you $8 to stop what you’re doing, is nonsense. They get paid a fixed rate regardless of how many orders they fill. The original premise was not that nobody is willing to do demand work for marginal wages, it's that there's enough competition in the labor market that wages need to be competitive, on a per hour basis, for things to work out. And that these one off jobs tend to need to be pretty pricey to make up for the variance in work availability vs. a steady hourly pay.
      - ipnon 4y ago
        Thank you for explaining this.
dcolkitt 4y ago
Okay… but why does this work with pizza?
- Gortal278 4y ago
  Most pizza places that do delivery have inhouse full-time pizza delivery drivers. The margins on pizza is so large, delivery can be done at cost (+ tips) and the pizza store can still come out on top.
- toast0 4y ago
  Pizza travels well, is still good (maybe better) after it cools a bit (but still warm), and has enough volume demand for delivery. Burgers are ok a bit cold but still warm, but fries are not. A pizza place with a driver on staff can do route planning and coordination so maybe the pizzas for a group of three deliveries near each other come out of the oven around the same time, hopefully right as the driver gets back from their previous run. That's harder to do with McDonald's. And if there's much of a wait, the fries show up cold and it's a bad experience.
sharemywin 4y ago
$8 for meal +1.95 menu price on DD. +$3.99 delivery fee +$3.53 Fees(15%) & tax +$3.00 Tip pretty sure the drivers only getting like $6.5 Not sure why they need 10%-20% from the restaurant and charge us $(3.99-6.99)+15%

by ipnon 4y ago

im3w1l 4y ago

You'd hope they batch a few orders up.

catchnear4321 4y ago
They do. Just good business sense. Why your order might be cold or incomplete. Well, one reason. Hopefully the drivers are fairly compensated. (They aren’t, hence the driver tip.) Delivery of food from arbitrary restaurants so you do not to leave the house, by companies underpaying drivers while raising prices silently, adding service fees, and trying to push the burden of compensating the driver on you via tips. First world problems require first world solutions.

NullPrefix 4y ago

Big Mac is $8 with tax. If I texted you right now and said I’d pay you $8 to stop what you’re doing, drive to grocery store to get buns, then get back to your kitchen and make the burger, would you do it? Not a lot of people would, there are nice jobs in America.

spywaregorilla 4y ago
Are you trying to explain why people don't work as on demand chefs?
- NullPrefix 4y ago
  I'm trying to ask how is chef different from delivery driver?
  - spywaregorilla 4y ago
    Chefs (by which we really mean line cooks) don't drive to get ingredients and then go back to your kitchen. It takes about 4 minutes to make a big mac, and you're likely going to be cooking more than one big mac at a time. They also don't work on demand so this premise: > Big Mac is $8 with tax. If I texted you right now and said I’d pay you $8 to stop what you’re doing, is nonsense. They get paid a fixed rate regardless of how many orders they fill. The original premise was not that nobody is willing to do demand work for marginal wages, it's that there's enough competition in the labor market that wages need to be competitive, on a per hour basis, for things to work out. And that these one off jobs tend to need to be pretty pricey to make up for the variance in work availability vs. a steady hourly pay.
    - ipnon 4y ago
      Thank you for explaining this.

dcolkitt 4y ago

Okay… but why does this work with pizza?

Gortal278 4y ago
Most pizza places that do delivery have inhouse full-time pizza delivery drivers. The margins on pizza is so large, delivery can be done at cost (+ tips) and the pizza store can still come out on top.
toast0 4y ago
Pizza travels well, is still good (maybe better) after it cools a bit (but still warm), and has enough volume demand for delivery. Burgers are ok a bit cold but still warm, but fries are not. A pizza place with a driver on staff can do route planning and coordination so maybe the pizzas for a group of three deliveries near each other come out of the oven around the same time, hopefully right as the driver gets back from their previous run. That's harder to do with McDonald's. And if there's much of a wait, the fries show up cold and it's a bad experience.

sharemywin 4y ago

$8 for meal +1.95 menu price on DD. +$3.99 delivery fee +$3.53 Fees(15%) & tax +$3.00 Tip pretty sure the drivers only getting like $6.5 Not sure why they need 10%-20% from the restaurant and charge us $(3.99-6.99)+15%