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Huh thanks, I didn't know so many vapers were ex smokers. I always thought it was some new fad.

by daenz 4y ago

HWR_14 4y ago
It started among ex-smokers, but moved to teens especially as it went from "specialty shops" to "in drug stores". At this point, the number of ex smokers is the minority.
bcrosby95 4y ago
Every vaper I know is an ex-smoker. But I'm also 40 so I don't know many people that would be taking something like this up as a new thing.
- ev1 4y ago
  I'm close to ~half your age, and every vaper I know started vaping from clean-slate. Absolutely zero of them were ex-smokers or have ever touched a cigarette. I honestly cannot name a single ex-smoker in my circle or a degree or two removed - all of them started vaping to vape. Almost all of them started before 18. I don't know of a single person using it as a cessation device. Anecdotal, of course, but still, didn't expect such big of a difference compared to your post.
  - Clubber 4y ago
    How many of those people would have picked up cigarettes if vapes never existed? Probably a bunch.
    - ev1 4y ago
      I'd be curious too but vapes would have to never exist in the first place probably. None have moved on to smoking, and 100% of my group finds smoking to be gross/smelly/etc "will never, that's disgusting", including the ones that have had a vape since they were 12.
BizarroLand 4y ago
There's always going to be some people who get into a bad habit simply because it's available, but barring one teenager everyone that vapes that I personally know are ex-smokers. I think, (barring dangerous additives like the buttered popcorn flavorings), that vaping is probably 3-10% as harmful as smoking. Not harmless, but less harmful, if that makes sense.
InvaderFizz 4y ago
It's partially generational. Kids don't pick up cigarettes anymore, they vape, so those who came of age after vape was common never smoked. The older generation, those who were adults in 2010 or thereabouts, all used to smoke. We rapidly adopted vaping for QoL improvements: No more smelling like an ashtray, massively less costs, improved lung capacity, and as a side affect, quitting became massively easier. Every cigarette user I know that switched to vaping has in turn found it easy to taper nicotine and quit. Vaping doesn't have the same addictive power as cigarettes. I was a 10 year smoker with multiple failed attempts at quitting, vaped for two years, then just stopped. As for popcorn lung, this was widely known and discussed within the vaping community at the time, basically within a year you could not even purchase the affected flavorings without being very intentional.

Huh thanks, I didn't know so many vapers were ex smokers. I always thought it was some new fad.

by daenz 4y ago

Huh thanks, I didn't know so many vapers were ex smokers. I always thought it was some new fad.

It started among ex-smokers, but moved to teens especially as it went from "specialty shops" to "in drug stores". At this point, the number of ex smokers is the minority.

bcrosby95 4y ago

Every vaper I know is an ex-smoker. But I'm also 40 so I don't know many people that would be taking something like this up as a new thing.

ev1 4y ago
I'm close to ~half your age, and every vaper I know started vaping from clean-slate. Absolutely zero of them were ex-smokers or have ever touched a cigarette. I honestly cannot name a single ex-smoker in my circle or a degree or two removed - all of them started vaping to vape. Almost all of them started before 18. I don't know of a single person using it as a cessation device. Anecdotal, of course, but still, didn't expect such big of a difference compared to your post.
- Clubber 4y ago
  How many of those people would have picked up cigarettes if vapes never existed? Probably a bunch.
  - ev1 4y ago
    I'd be curious too but vapes would have to never exist in the first place probably. None have moved on to smoking, and 100% of my group finds smoking to be gross/smelly/etc "will never, that's disgusting", including the ones that have had a vape since they were 12.

BizarroLand 4y ago

There's always going to be some people who get into a bad habit simply because it's available, but barring one teenager everyone that vapes that I personally know are ex-smokers. I think, (barring dangerous additives like the buttered popcorn flavorings), that vaping is probably 3-10% as harmful as smoking. Not harmless, but less harmful, if that makes sense.

InvaderFizz 4y ago

It's partially generational. Kids don't pick up cigarettes anymore, they vape, so those who came of age after vape was common never smoked. The older generation, those who were adults in 2010 or thereabouts, all used to smoke. We rapidly adopted vaping for QoL improvements: No more smelling like an ashtray, massively less costs, improved lung capacity, and as a side affect, quitting became massively easier. Every cigarette user I know that switched to vaping has in turn found it easy to taper nicotine and quit. Vaping doesn't have the same addictive power as cigarettes. I was a 10 year smoker with multiple failed attempts at quitting, vaped for two years, then just stopped. As for popcorn lung, this was widely known and discussed within the vaping community at the time, basically within a year you could not even purchase the affected flavorings without being very intentional.