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Re: Apple I don’t see how any of these are to be considered a “product”, especially since they can’t be purchased or acquired in any way apart from some actual

Re: Apple I don’t see how any of these are to be considered a “product”, especially since they can’t be purchased or acquired in any way apart from some actual product: * Touch ID * Apple ID * FairPlay * bridgeOS * any of the apps bundled with the OS, such as Automator or Stickies

papercuts 4y ago
Thank you for the feedback, I see what you are saying. Definitions were difficult, and hopefully I'm not being too fast and loose with the "product line" categorization of this chart in general. I put these in for visibility sake, and also perhaps because Apple didn't have as much to go in here than expected, but will definitely consider your notes for a future revision, thanks again!
- aYsY4dDQ2NrcNzA 4y ago
  Actually, I think it would be good to illustrate how few product lines Apple has as compared to its competitors.
wmeredith 4y ago
This also struck me as odd. I can't use Siri on my Android phone in order to "fragment my exposure to big tech".
- papercuts 4y ago
  Yes, in terms of "fragmentation," Mix & Match is vague and only possible in certain ways, but it gets more specific with tips #2-4 about browsers, search, and AI assistants. As an Apple user, I avoid Safari to fragment (the tip is about switching to Firefox), and also have changed to Neeva to fragment my Google exposure. Otherwise, I hear you, and definitely hoped for more clean lines and opportunities, but the book turned into being more about raising awareness of these companies' reach and incepting the mere suggestion that a user could (or even want to) fragment or limit their exposure in any way.
Fiahil 4y ago
Same for cloud and ad services, they're not products (more a platform or a collection of products) nor they're for consumers. EDIT : Also, tensorflow (not a product) is making his way on the google "cloud", but not .NET onto Microsoft's. What's the reasoning there ?
- papercuts 4y ago
  Yes, my headline might not be the best, because this chart definitely goes outside the bounds of consumer product lines. .NET is in there, just above Azure, but as with many of the more technical pieces of this puzzle, I did my best research while also being a little out of my league to make super-consistent calls. While some aren't consumer options, I consider them a heads-up to the average consumer, as a reminder of how much they don’t know, or to spark connections like looking up Body Labs and then thinking about Amazon Go. Or with the ads, it’s just a reminder that those ads are part of the business. And then there’s probably a class of them that are "things I’ve seen discussed on Hacker News and know are important without complete understanding them” like AlphaFold on the front page today… as I'm an average lay-consumer too… but in this book, I try to stick with making points well within reach. It's all about calling out how low the bar seems on consumer technical knowledge. Thanks for the question and for taking a look!
perryizgr8 4y ago
Yeah, if that's the case then they should add things like windows hello to Microsoft's bubble.

papercuts 4y ago

Thank you for the feedback, I see what you are saying. Definitions were difficult, and hopefully I'm not being too fast and loose with the "product line" categorization of this chart in general. I put these in for visibility sake, and also perhaps because Apple didn't have as much to go in here than expected, but will definitely consider your notes for a future revision, thanks again!

aYsY4dDQ2NrcNzA 4y ago
Actually, I think it would be good to illustrate how few product lines Apple has as compared to its competitors.

wmeredith 4y ago

This also struck me as odd. I can't use Siri on my Android phone in order to "fragment my exposure to big tech".

papercuts 4y ago
Yes, in terms of "fragmentation," Mix & Match is vague and only possible in certain ways, but it gets more specific with tips #2-4 about browsers, search, and AI assistants. As an Apple user, I avoid Safari to fragment (the tip is about switching to Firefox), and also have changed to Neeva to fragment my Google exposure. Otherwise, I hear you, and definitely hoped for more clean lines and opportunities, but the book turned into being more about raising awareness of these companies' reach and incepting the mere suggestion that a user could (or even want to) fragment or limit their exposure in any way.

Fiahil 4y ago

Same for cloud and ad services, they're not products (more a platform or a collection of products) nor they're for consumers. EDIT : Also, tensorflow (not a product) is making his way on the google "cloud", but not .NET onto Microsoft's. What's the reasoning there ?

papercuts 4y ago
Yes, my headline might not be the best, because this chart definitely goes outside the bounds of consumer product lines. .NET is in there, just above Azure, but as with many of the more technical pieces of this puzzle, I did my best research while also being a little out of my league to make super-consistent calls. While some aren't consumer options, I consider them a heads-up to the average consumer, as a reminder of how much they don’t know, or to spark connections like looking up Body Labs and then thinking about Amazon Go. Or with the ads, it’s just a reminder that those ads are part of the business. And then there’s probably a class of them that are "things I’ve seen discussed on Hacker News and know are important without complete understanding them” like AlphaFold on the front page today… as I'm an average lay-consumer too… but in this book, I try to stick with making points well within reach. It's all about calling out how low the bar seems on consumer technical knowledge. Thanks for the question and for taking a look!

perryizgr8 4y ago

Yeah, if that's the case then they should add things like windows hello to Microsoft's bubble.