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Lawmaker pay is a rounding error. Clearly we can't pay lawmakers $0 and expert high effort + no corruption. is there any proof of any way that saying pay from

Lawmaker pay is a rounding error. Clearly we can't pay lawmakers $0 and expert high effort + no corruption. is there any proof of any way that saying pay from 170k a year to ??? 1 million USD? a year would have any impact on the problems? Do countries with less corrupt lawmakers pay more than the US? I doubt that...

AlgorithmicTime 4y ago
mfer 4y ago
> Do countries with less corrupt lawmakers pay more than the US? I doubt that... This assumes ones level of corruption has to do with income. Is that true or are there other factors?
hedora 4y ago
Manchin has made it clear he will happily (and literally) burn the entire planet down for $5M/year. If lobbying is legal, than bribes should be too. I'd chip into the "Pay Manchin a ransom of $50M to not do $50T of damage to the planet" fund.
- pessimizer 4y ago
  > If lobbying is legal, than bribes should be too. Also selling your vote. Then we can at least choose the pol who sends the biggest check.
- arebop 4y ago
  Suppose you did pay each legislator $50M to work for the good of the whole country. Do you think this would prevent Manchin from being influenced by a $5M lagniappe? It's an extra 10%! And a certain well-known politician infamously took care to fleece the secret service for overpriced golf cart and hotel room rentals, despite getting hundreds of millions per year in emoluments revenues. Some people are really motivated by every penny despite what economists might tell you about marginal utility.
  - Bloating 4y ago
    Who's version of whats good?
kelnos 4y ago
Another commenter here claimed that in Singapore, they pay 3x the national median salary. Singapore is not my cup of tea government-wise, but they are viewed as one of the least corrupt governments in the world. Certainly that's not solely due to how they are paid, but I'm sure it factors in.
- brianwawok 4y ago
  Median salary in the US is 67k. 3 of that is a rounding error from what our reps are currently paid. Not sure what that argument is going?
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    > Median salary in the US is 67k. No, it's not. Median household income is about $67k. Median salary (or, at least “median annual earnings for workers who worked full time”) is about $56k.
    - brianwawok 4y ago
      Ok, does not change my post in any way.

AlgorithmicTime 4y ago

mfer 4y ago

> Do countries with less corrupt lawmakers pay more than the US? I doubt that... This assumes ones level of corruption has to do with income. Is that true or are there other factors?

hedora 4y ago

Manchin has made it clear he will happily (and literally) burn the entire planet down for $5M/year. If lobbying is legal, than bribes should be too. I'd chip into the "Pay Manchin a ransom of $50M to not do $50T of damage to the planet" fund.

pessimizer 4y ago
> If lobbying is legal, than bribes should be too. Also selling your vote. Then we can at least choose the pol who sends the biggest check.
arebop 4y ago
Suppose you did pay each legislator $50M to work for the good of the whole country. Do you think this would prevent Manchin from being influenced by a $5M lagniappe? It's an extra 10%! And a certain well-known politician infamously took care to fleece the secret service for overpriced golf cart and hotel room rentals, despite getting hundreds of millions per year in emoluments revenues. Some people are really motivated by every penny despite what economists might tell you about marginal utility.
- Bloating 4y ago
  Who's version of whats good?

kelnos 4y ago

Another commenter here claimed that in Singapore, they pay 3x the national median salary. Singapore is not my cup of tea government-wise, but they are viewed as one of the least corrupt governments in the world. Certainly that's not solely due to how they are paid, but I'm sure it factors in.

brianwawok 4y ago
Median salary in the US is 67k. 3 of that is a rounding error from what our reps are currently paid. Not sure what that argument is going?
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > Median salary in the US is 67k. No, it's not. Median household income is about $67k. Median salary (or, at least “median annual earnings for workers who worked full time”) is about $56k.
  - brianwawok 4y ago
    Ok, does not change my post in any way.